Rosssub

Fire Extinguisher Install

Recommended Posts

I mounted a 1KG dry powder fire extinguisher in the Legacy a few weeks back. Thought I'd make a thread with some pic's, details and info. Initially installing a daily driver single strap extinguisher that was a gift, then changing to a double metal strap holder with uprated bolts suitable for track use. I've broken this thread into two sections:

 

Fire Extinguisher Install - Part 1 - Daily Driver

Fire Extinguisher Install - Part 2 - Track Use

 

Part 1 - Daily Driver Extinguisher Install

 

I stopped in at a local engineering workshop and brought a 500mm length of alloy flat bar, 25x4.5mm for $4.50:

Extinguisher_Install_001.jpg

 

Planning to mount the extinguisher to a bracket fitted between the front passenger seat rails, I've bent the alloy bar for a good fit using the corner of a workbench and a G-clamp:

Extinguisher_Install_002.jpg

 

Bent bar dimensions:

BH_Extinguisher_Bracket_Rosssub.jpg

 

I sat the new bracket in place and marked the bolt hole centres:

Extinguisher_Install_003.jpg

 

Then centre punched to stop the drill wandering when starting drilling:

Extinguisher_Install_005.jpg

 

First drilled to 6mm:

Extinguisher_Install_006.jpg

 

Then drilled to 10mm:

Extinguisher_Install_007.jpg

 

I've trimmed the brackets inside lower corner to stop it digging into the carpet:

Extinguisher_Install_010.jpg

 

Bracket trail fit:

Extinguisher_Install_011.jpg

 

After working out exactly where I wanted the extinguisher to sit:

Extinguisher_Install_012.jpg

 

I've marked the extinguisher mount bolt holes onto the new bracket:

Extinguisher_Install_014.jpg

 

Then after centre punching again, drilled two 6mm holes:

Extinguisher_Install_016.jpg

 

Extinguisher mount then bolted to the new bracket, using 12mm long M6 gutter/panel bolts:

Extinguisher_Install_019.jpg

 

Extinguisher_Install_023.jpg

 

I unbolted the mount again, scratched the alloy plate up with sandpaper and then primed it:

Extinguisher_Install_024.jpg

 

Then a few coats of black enamel:

Extinguisher_Install_030.jpg

 

New daily driver fire extinguisher mounting bracket installed:

Fire_extinguisher_installed_004.jpg

 

Extinguisher in:

Fire_extinguisher_installed_005.jpg

 

Seat adjustment still working as normal:

Fire_extinguisher_installed_006.jpg

 

 

Part 2 - Track/Club Sport Extinguisher Install

 

Wanting the extinguisher install to be suitable for club sport/track use I've checked vehicle handheld extinguisher requirements:

 

Motor Sport New Zealand - Appendix 2/Schedule A - Fire Extinguishers:

http://www.motorsport.org.nz/content/appendix-two-schedule-0

 

CAMS - Confederation of Australian Motor Sport - Schedule H - Fire Extinguishers:

http://www.cams.com.au/motor-sport/regulations/cams-manual/general-requirements

 

But you can also check in with your local event organiser:

http://www.christchurchtrackdays.com/event-schedule/vehicle-requirements/

 

I stopped into Butler Auto Mart and brought a 1KG Chubb dry powder extinguisher with a twin metal strap bracket for $40, much smaller than the Orca 1KG original.

New_Chubb_Extinguisher_001.jpg

 

Here's a very similar option from Mitre10 Mega, a Quell 1KG dry powder with twin metal straps (CAMS approved) for $35:

https://www.mitre10.co.nz/shop/quell-1kg-fire-extinguisher-1kg-red-cylinder-and-white-powder/p/223125

 

I then went to Blacks Fasteners and got a selection of (minimum ISO 8.8) M6 16mm bolts, washers and nyloc nuts. For a grand total of $2.00. The two bigger washers are panel washers, used when fitting an extinguisher to a body panel:

New_Chubb_Extinguisher_003.jpg

 

I removed the daily driver/single strap extinguisher mount, then positioned and marked the new twin strap bracket bolt holes:

Chubb_1_KG_install_001.jpg

 

Chubb_1_KG_install_002.jpg

 

Only needing to drill one new 6mm hole:

Chubb_1_KG_install_003.jpg

 

After drilling, then sanding and touching up the black paint.

Chubb_1_KG_install_005.jpg

 

The new extinguisher mount was bolted to the seat rail bracket using the ISO 8.8 M6 bolts, washers and nyloc nuts:

Chubb_1_KG_install_006.jpg

 

Chubb_1_KG_install_007.jpg

 

New twin strap extinguisher mounting bracket bolted to the seat rails:

Chubb_1_KG_install_008.jpg

 

New 1KG fire extinguisher installed and ready for event scrutineering:

Chubb_1_KG_install_009.jpg

 

Seat adjusting lever unobstructed:

Chubb_1_KG_install_010.jpg

 

Chubb_1_KG_install_011.jpg

  • Like 7

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Mate, the the install looks good!  but if you needed to use it.. a 1kg extinguisher is good for f-all.  When you see flames coming out of your pride and joy your extinguisher can never be large enough!!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
21 minutes ago, newsuba said:

i had a diy one for my gc8.

 

many drillbits did it eat !

 

still got it if any one wants it

 

 

 

I do pm me

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Still a GREAT writeup!

 

Now recent updates require TWIN Straps for motorsports use

 

here's a discussion thread on the NZ Superlap Drivers Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/NZSuperlap/836872010005400/?comment_id=836883340004267&reply_comment_id=836889906670277&notif_id=1556167429790094&notif_t=group_comment&ref=notif

 

So lets go internet Shoppping

 

https://nzsafetyblackwoods.co.nz/en/flame-guard-1-0kg-abe-dry-powder-extinguisher-each--402173?gclid=Cj0KCQjwkoDmBRCcARIsAG3xzl-phOEq4V4zmWyKpOtLCidV6ZWvg1vBprBTAW7SmqMi2bGURmltJz4aArTGEALw_wcB&fbclid=IwAR2ZJHIeHrBTJW4GlDW3Vze9kg5khSmyIaARyx64A_mpY8Ib01KlqUiGAlQ

 

58f82da4336bb7.43968819.jpeg

 

$40.48 incl. GST

 

https://www.racetech.co.nz/shop/1kg-extinguisher?gclid=Cj0KCQjwkoDmBRCcARIsAG3xzl-MmxIcDjwHdqH48FJBc6hiXvnyQCeYaJnsPCohd2wbqOr4Uhf3O64aAk-7EALw_wcB&fbclid=IwAR0ZfIoBXRzj_Rjdveop54jBjEC4QvAVeqTfFbE0DmGQh5yfIrH-qnlvkI8

 

HH_1L(sml)-360x360.jpg

 

$39.99

 

With "Optional Motorsports Mount"

 

twin-strap-bracket-2017-800px-800x800.jp

https://www.thewarehouse.co.nz/p/orca-fire-extinguisher-auto%2Frecreational-1kg/R2070507.html?gclsrc=aw.ds&%3Fds_rl=1268368&gclid=Cj0KCQjwkoDmBRCcARIsAG3xzl8AiWGtED7xTqOXmZ0GCncKlgJgMFBQSA8Ql2c46uQ9umh6aciqua8aArWyEALw_wcB&fbclid=IwAR2sK0d1FZrhibFt3RXyawOnreC3L_ntgBVsuEcKAr_c9nXibZTKNstc4pg

 

R2070507_40.jpg?sw=232&sh=232&sm=fit

 

$29.00

 

https://www.warehousestationery.co.nz/product/W1155101.html?gclsrc=aw.ds&&gclid=Cj0KCQjwkoDmBRCcARIsAG3xzl9wMPxiciipp2-ByaDzytlT4YuXllTDCH-eso7FPsIGC8RsD-tktG8aAoWEEALw_wcB&fbclid=IwAR1OHdFh5IfMib46G3wCJevDCQYslmnt-1-EbWGX_peg7djvvr5E3VJcecc

 

W1155101_00.jpg?sw=232&sh=232&sm=fit

 

$22.99

 

NOW

 

yeah 1kg doesnt last long but could be enough in a pinch and I have not heard good things about some straps ie they come loose with passengers feet etc

 

SO keen on feedback or "What do you se"

 

also interested in Larger units (space can be an issue)

PSL Fire & safety got a recomendation :

 

https://www.pslfireandsafety.co.nz/collections/fire-extinguishers/products/double-strap-brackets-1kg-abe

 

8425-7_4_d400ad3e-50c6-4538-8748-3457524

 

They offer 1, 1.5 and 2kg Twin strap mounts as above

 

here https://www.pslfireandsafety.co.nz/collections/fire-extinguishers

 

with a 5% 'facebook' discount too!

 

2kg will set you back $80

 

8412_1_8_1024x1024.jpg?v=1532316880

 

https://www.pslfireandsafety.co.nz/collections/fire-extinguishers/products/flamefighter-2kg-abe-dry-powder-fire-extinguishers

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Bunnings has them cheap too, and have stores everywhere. 

 

stores can have more options

https://www.bunnings.co.nz/search/products?q=fire extinguisher

 

2.5L dual strap $63

https://www.bunnings.co.nz/family-shield-2-5kg-fire-extinguisher_p00183790

 

i put a wire (like baby #8 fencing wire)  between the two release catches so even if you pull one they both pop open. Makes it easier to open and don’t have to stretch as far. 

 

remember in older cars without a cage that the firewall comes into the footwell in a crash so ideally remove them for road use or your passenger may be worse off. 

 

For a a race car the plumb in kits are now pretty cheap. 

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

i've got the cheapo 1kg quell above (from mitre 10 or bunnings - don't remember) in a custom kap bracket from aus.

the quell is ok but the straps are nasty and sharp, and the metal tag rattles !

 

258cjef.jpg

Edited by newsuba
  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

yeah the neat aspect sold me, my diy skills are non-existent

😄

did get top service from russell at kap, bracket arrived in less than a week.

Edited by newsuba
  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

@newsuba that’s way to pretty. All I have is a single bar with a few bends s it clear the nuts from the bracket. 

 

I also wrapped wire around the bar and bracket as the bolts are so tiny. 

  • Sad 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

😁

single flat bar wouldn't work in my froggy car, the seatbolt arrangement is very different.

bolts were a decent size but i've lost the torx key so the bracket is there for good

😂

 

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.