Batbaruman

Theft prevention tactics

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Hey not sure if the best section but hey, looking for tips on general theft prevention stuff. Have 5 star car alarm but forever paranoid as it's my daily. Currently considering getting something like a steering wheel lock as further deterrent, something bright stop them even wanting to try get in from the outside.

 

edit : public forum, nothing specific about where you putting switches or anything guys! just roughly deterrent type stuff one could do to make lives of theif scumbags harder

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Or jimmy up a crank position sensor switch or something like that. Doesn't stop them getting in and trashing it but unless they have a trailer they won't be going anywhere

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Steering wheel locks are useless, I used one on a previous car - people can just saw the steering wheel and remove it. Can't speak much for prevention tactics, I just have an alarm and GPS tracker. If someone reeeeeealy wants your car they'll probably just tow it.

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I had a friend with a push button switch hidden in the engine bay that would disconnect the positive feed from the battery. Was only used when leaving in dodgy areas or when going for long rides 

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A friend of mine (who owns possibly the fastest RS in nz)

 

Chopped a wire here and there a kapow - full proof

 

If someone breaks in and figures out how to bypass the alarm the car will start but will put out of gas seconds later :P 

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Y'all know this an open forum on the interewebs roiight?

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heh you guys are doing great at telling the world your 'secrets' eh :P

 

perhaps not the best idea to elaborate specifically aye?

 

crank angle sensor is the simplest, other methods are equally "PITA" for the operator especially come WOF time or in the chance someone else needs to drive your car

 

insurance and or GPS nothing is fool proof, sad to say, I'm not a defeatist but anything you do is ultimately overcome by either the most determined thief or the 2 second smash and grab opportunist

 

if the thread gets toooo silly it will get locked

 

chains around rims & diffs are great until you forget it or scratch something, as mentioned wheel clamps or locks are also temporary, take the whole steering wheel with you might work except they are $10 at PaP & any bad guy will scope it out & carry a spare with them etc...

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Just now, evowrx said:

Y'all know this an open forum on the interewebs roiight?

good point, editing my OP

 

nothing specific about where you putting switches or anything guys! just roughly deterrent type stuff

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1 hour ago, Joker said:

heh you guys are doing great at telling the world your 'secrets' eh :P

 

perhaps not the best idea to elaborate specifically aye?

 

 

 

If someone comes to (where I live) and cuts the chains / gets past the alarm / rewires the fuel pump relay to steal a 25year old car that is average at best then they obviously havnt seen my next door neighbors v7  lololol

 

original post edited however :P

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Nothing wrong with discussing ideas. Different story if your blurting out how-to's, and where your particular setup is 

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Does anyone have any relatively cheap suggestions for gps trackers? I'm after one I can buy and install myself.

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The only guarantee you have when it comes to theives is theft insurance.

 

Gone are the days of the simpleton smashing a window and hot wiring the car for a speedy getaway. These guys literally do it for a living, if they want it they'll take it,  pure and simple. No amount of alarms, switches, disconnected circuits or anti thrift equipment will stop them.

 

A friends wrx got stolen from a train station in broad daylight, it was alarmed with immobilizers and a steering wheel lock, police closed the case a few short days in due to lack of evidence and leads. Cc tv at the station wasn't even useful enough to id  anyone or anything. 

 

Insure it, you at least get a small some of money back, because you'll never see the car again. 

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Military base, 24/7 security, And there are way nicer cars than mine too.
Join the military ;)

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42 minutes ago, Andy_Mac said:

Nothing wrong with discussing ideas. Different story if your blurting out how-to's, and where your particular setup is 

 

Precisely.

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18 hours ago, Jono24 said:

Does anyone have any relatively cheap suggestions for gps trackers? I'm after one I can buy and install myself.

old iPhone, prepay sim 

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1 minute ago, A_J_T said:

old iPhone, prepay sim 

any particular software or just trackmyiphone?

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all apple devices natively support find my phone so thats why i suggest iPhone. Any smart phone will work but 3rd party apps suck imo. i have no android experience but i believe they support Google tracking too so that would work. 

 

A setup which i have seen work is an older iPhone 4s wired in somewhere to charge when ignition is on, ideally hidden but thats up to the individual. turn off mobile data for basically everything except find my phone and then pop a prepaid sim in it with a $19 data plan or something and add it to your carrier account. dont top it up just leave it with no credit. car goes missing throw $20 on the number and it will automatically renew the plan. then track it. I have seen this done and tested multiple times and it seems to work. Some people are paranoid and choose to keep it topped up on a monthly basis and check in on it now and then but thats a monthly cost. 

 

Thing i like about this is even if they pull the battery from your car if you configure an iphone correctly it will sit in its super secret location running on battery for days. 

 

 

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44 minutes ago, A_J_T said:

all apple devices natively support find my phone so thats why i suggest iPhone. Any smart phone will work but 3rd party apps suck imo. i have no android experience but i believe they support Google tracking too so that would work. 

 

A setup which i have seen work is an older iPhone 4s wired in somewhere to charge when ignition is on, ideally hidden but thats up to the individual. turn off mobile data for basically everything except find my phone and then pop a prepaid sim in it with a $19 data plan or something and add it to your carrier account. dont top it up just leave it with no credit. car goes missing throw $20 on the number and it will automatically renew the plan. then track it. I have seen this done and tested multiple times and it seems to work. Some people are paranoid and choose to keep it topped up on a monthly basis and check in on it now and then but thats a monthly cost. 

 

Thing i like about this is even if they pull the battery from your car if you configure an iphone correctly it will sit in its super secret location running on battery for days. 

 

 

 

 

This idea !

 

Fully doing this

 

I can imagine the look on the thieves face like "how do they keep finding me" LOL :P 

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thanks @A_J_T , been using my ancient iphone for music, will chuck in a sim card and enable location services.

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38 minutes ago, THUNDA said:

 

 

This idea !

 

Fully doing this

 

I can imagine the look on the thieves face like "how do they keep finding me" LOL :P 

LOLOLOLxD:)

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38 minutes ago, THUNDA said:

 

 

This idea !

 

Fully doing this

 

I can imagine the look on the thieves face like "how do they keep finding me" LOL :P 

nek minit they break in just to steal the iphone and gap the scene. i suspect for this to work you'd want to hide it in a place that's really hard to access.

 

question about immobilisers. i have a 5 star car alarm, is the immobilizer good enough to stop someone from being able to take the care other than by towing it? its got a loud ass alarm siren too but i guess that is easily shut up by cutting the cable to it. famous last words but i'm not that concerned about anyone towing it away, more concerned about the smash and grab opportunist types

 

also have 1 locknut on each wheel and intend on putting the locknut somewhere a bit more secure too

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5 hours ago, Batbaruman said:

nek minit they break in just to steal the iphone and gap the scene. i suspect for this to work you'd want to hide it in a place that's really hard to access.

 

question about immobilisers. i have a 5 star car alarm, is the immobilizer good enough to stop someone from being able to take the care other than by towing it? its got a loud ass alarm siren too but i guess that is easily shut up by cutting the cable to it. famous last words but i'm not that concerned about anyone towing it away, more concerned about the smash and grab opportunist types

 

also have 1 locknut on each wheel and intend on putting the locknut somewhere a bit more secure too

Decent sirens actually have there own stand alone battery in the unit so will keep screaming even if you cut the wires, however a decent thief could just send the correct signal to the siren manually so it never goes off in the first place.

 

I've seen a decent auto electrician rip out a car alarm in 15mins, and that included cleaning up and soldering all the wires back together cleanly. For someone who knows what they are doing it isn't that hard to get around unfortunately. It really depends on how well the original installer put it in.

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If only there was a car version of this... :P

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Unfortunately, most of the thefts I've heard off seem to be trailer jobs. Probably someone with flatbed tow truck or similar.
Even without engine running they can load it up.


Seems like GPS and insurance is the only real way to protect your pocket these days.

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1 hour ago, Batbaruman said:

nek minit they break in just to steal the iphone and gap the scene. i suspect for this to work you'd want to hide it in a place that's really hard to access.

 

question about immobilisers. i have a 5 star car alarm, is the immobilizer good enough to stop someone from being able to take the care other than by towing it? its got a loud ass alarm siren too but i guess that is easily shut up by cutting the cable to it. famous last words but i'm not that concerned about anyone towing it away, more concerned about the smash and grab opportunist types

 

also have 1 locknut on each wheel and intend on putting the locknut somewhere a bit more secure too

 

 

haha true that, would probably be best to hard wire an iphone carger to run on an accesory circuit, even run a wire and tuck it all behind the glove box or somethingso the phone just stays in there forever, always charging when the car is on

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