new break pads

[T.Rev]

and some more info....

It is easy to find subjective opinions about brake pad performance, but often difficult

to find hard data. This post collects hard data on popular brake pads - much of which

has been gleaned from other vwvortex posters.

The friction coefficient is directly proportional to pad grippiness and brake torque.

The max operating temperature is directly related to fade resistance which is an

important factor in choosing a brake pad as well.

Performance categories are organized by friction coefficient and serve as a guide

only - some pads may fit into multiple categories. If you have questions about a

particular pad, it is always best to get a data sheet directly from the manufacturer

to ensure that the latest formulation meets your particular needs.

Please post any corrections or additional data

More brake FAQ material here:

http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=2357867

OEM-level Performance

# examples: OEM MkIV pads, Mintex Redbox, Hawk Ceramic

# cF=0.30-0.40

# max temp before fade: 600-700°F (Hawk Ceramic is a little higher on cF, redbox is lower on both cF & fade)

# street use only

Performance Enthusiast/Light Autocross

# examples: Hawk HPS, EBC Greenstuff, EBC Redstuff, Porterfield R4-S, Axxis Ultimate

# cF=0.41-0.45 (EBC pads have higher cF, Greenstuff has poor performance on heavier cars

# max temp before fade: 700-900°F (some pads may be rated higher)

# light auto-cross and performance street use

Autocross/Light Track Pad/HPDE

# examples: Hawk HP+, Carbotech Bobcat, Ferodo DS-2000, EBC Yellowstuff

# cF=0.46-0.49

# max temp before fade: 900-1100°F

# light track days, auto-cross, and performance street use

Track Pad/HPDE

# examples: Ferodo DS-2500, Carbotech Panther Plus, Mintex C-tech 1155

# cF=0.50-0.55

# max temp before fade: 1100-1300°F

# track days and high-performance street use

Race Pad

# examples: Ferodo DS-3000, Hawk Blue 9012, Hawk Black, EBC Bluestuff, Porterfield R4

# cF=0.56-0.68 (depends on specific race application)

# max temp before fade: 1300°F+ (depends on specific race application)

# track use only

[Pappu1]

some comments..

i have gotten new freodo excells all around as per thread..

the breaks make 0 noise so very good for street and also not much break dust

the initial contact seems bit light but as u press harder it stands up to the job..

repeated breaking (hard) will have them smoking but the grip does not go away..i guess its a good thing so u can know when its quits time without having to get break fade and back off..

the above statements are due for reversion simply coz i have to get my breaks bled and then will be able to give some more accurate feedback..

so far they seem good for street...

[WRXER]

Im trialing out some project mu's for the track 2moro, weren't that cheap at $350+gst for fronts and 250+gst for rears. But have heard they are pretty damn good for what Im wanting, now it's only the tyres letting things down so gotta get onto that.... But with all this rain, I probably won't go with the semi-slicks 2moro and stick with the toyos I currently have on.

[Guest loren]

I've used project mu HC+... really good pads.

[WRXER]

I concur, best pads I've ever had, along with braided brake lines and a good fluid flush my brakes went all day at the track. Never felt such immense braking I love them, wonder what the next step up would be like with slicks ;D