oil leak

[yellowsub]

hey boys and girls

have been noticeing a little oil stain under the car every time i stop now the motor has only done 10000 kms sence it was rebuilt and the catch is i got it off that guy on trade me for $1990 and have found out hes not useing GENUINE seals/gaskets so i have allready replaced the rear crank seal and the rockers seals in the last 2 years this leak is on the left bottom passenger side head and looks like its comming from head gasket

any ideas people what seal it could be?????

[rex-leggy]

is the oil tracking from anywhere? or is that where the drips forming?

if its coming from there then id say its the headgasket unless the front cam caps are leaking (the c shaped caps that hold the cams down)

[yellowsub]

were you see the oil is were is leaking from dont thing head gaskets could leak oil

[rex-leggy]

can if they weren't torqued correctly or if the surfaces arnt prepped correctly .

[yellowsub]

motor was built 2 years ago and have just clocked up 10000 kms

[rex-leggy]

cheep gaskets wont last very long . id put $$ down that the prep wasn't done to get a good seal .

its just seeping so at least there's not compression behind it but only fix is to replace both headgaskets.

[yellowsub]

hummm

surely there would be other signs if the head gaskets were gone ???

[rex-leggy]

there are other signs .

oil mixing with water, compression getting into cooling system ect .

the head gasket may not be "blown" but is leaking from one of the oil gallerys to where you can see the oil.

red = oil

green = water

where your gasket is leaking is on the oil gallery . obviously on the other side of engine tho.

also the reason its only seeping and not flowing out is because those gallery's are the return to the sump . so the oil isnt under pressure from the oil pump

[yellowsub]

gurr not happy this out come ill have to drop it into a garage and get more info

[rex-leggy]

 yellowsub said:

gurr not happy this out come ill have to drop it into a garage and get more info

good luck but if the oil is indeed coming from there the only fix is new headgaskets . very gay

[Guest]

i wouldnt be so quick to blame s*** gaskets probably not prepped/built as well as it shouldve. ive never had a single complaint about aftermarket gaskets even the cheap chinese sets. i would only ever use steel gaskets though personal pref. permaseal stuff seems pretty good. not too sure on kerzan but sta's own gaskets they import seem sweet as.

my h/g look like its leaking but its just rocker cover gasket and running everywhere. bitch job so i havent done it yet.

was this from whangarei?

[rex-leggy]

 evowrx said:

i wouldnt be so quick to blame s*** gaskets probably not prepped/built as well as it shouldve. ive never had a single complaint about aftermarket gaskets even the cheap chinese sets. i would only ever use steel gaskets though personal pref. permaseal stuff seems pretty good. not too sure on kerzan but sta's own gaskets they import seem sweet as.

my h/g look like its leaking but its just rocker cover gasket and running everywhere. bitch job so i havent done it yet.

was this from whangarei?

yup thats why i said id bet $$ the prep wasnt done correctly

[Guest]

 rex-leggy said:

cheep gaskets wont last very long . id put $$ down that the prep wasn't done to get a good seal .

its just seeping so at least there's not compression behind it but only fix is to replace both headgaskets.

agreed crap job.

the way you write that seems like it was coz it was from whangas lol was this the whangas one?

[yellowsub]

rapid200sx os the guy that sells them for a guy called grant hes from Rotorua lol

[Guest]

i see thinking of a complete yellow gf8 with vf22 reg on hold sold $1900ish on tm a cupla weeks ago seen it driving round dargaville thats why i wondered...

[rex-leggy]

 evowrx']

[quote name='rex-leggy said:

b]cheep gaskets wont last very long [/b] . id put $$ down that the prep wasn't done to get a good seal .

its just seeping so at least there's not compression behind it but only fix is to replace both headgaskets.

agreed crap job.

the way you write that seems like it was coz it was from whangas lol was this the whangas one?

still dont like cheep gaskets had trouble with head gaskets,rockercover gaskets and cam seals . had them leak but no issue with genuine gaskets to date .... well except for re used exhaust gaskets

[Guest]

get rocker cover gaskets genuine thers about 20 options and places like repco dont take the time to work it out. thats why heaps of them leak after being replaced. what brands have u used just out of interest?

u cant buy aftermarket flange gaskets for stock headers either i need one its on my to do list. its mint how they use steel not graphite shit

[rex-leggy]

 evowrx said:

get rocker cover gaskets genuine thers about 20 options and places like repco dont take the time to work it out. thats why heaps of them leak after being replaced. what brands have u used just out of interest?

u cant buy aftermarket flange gaskets for stock headers either i need one its on my to do list. its mint how they use steel not graphite s***

cant remember the brand but it was bnt's generic brand that they got in. got so many leaks that the enginge got pulled out and redone.

all the gaskets were put in by a reputable mechanic (was before i started doing my own work)

as soon as genuine went in not an issue. alot of workshops that use genuine brands wont give a warranty with aftermarket parts either

[Guest]

im not too sure what they sell gasket wise. i offer customers both options its their car their choice.

also a lot of tuners specifiy genuine only. i got some coils for my cousins 220kw legacy which came in an aftermarket box but were genuine and kent @ speedsource refused to fit them...had to pay twice the money and drive into auckland to pick them up to get it tuned the same day. you get points for using genuine parts too so you get free coffee machines and ipods and things. i like the idea of genuine but look at genuine mitzi lifters? aftermarket parts are normally built slightly better its a selling point. for example i think exedy clutches are uprated 25% on stndard clutches and valeo 30% its so people buy them over genuine.

[driftrex]

like you guys i think with gaskets genuine or not the prep is were it matters for getting a good seal.

i did my rocker cover not long ago, everything i read on here and elsewhere said to stay well away from anything non-genuine, and genuine are big dollars for what they are, so i got permaseal one for under $50 with washers as well. i took lots of time to make sure everything was clean and put gasket s*** in the right places and its been perfect, no leaks at all. also the one i took out wasnt genuine as i got the caryard to replace both when i bought my car, that was 5 years ago, some ***t had put sealant around the whole gasket so that will be why it leaked i think. prick of a job cleaning it all off.

but yea its all about prep and not using sealant aparts from where you have to.

[Guest]

people think you need sealant all the way around but thats the worse thing you could do it only needs it at a couple of points. the boxer design with the heads on their side wouldnt help either. theres a sticky thread n motor i think that shows it anyway.

[yellowsub]

well up side i have e mailed the guy that did engine and grant has phoned me so have sent more photos though to him and said im not overly happy only after doing 10,000 kms and seeing the head gasket is leaking oil.

lets see what the outcome is

next prob is might have to do road trip to Rotorua, Bay of Plenty

[yellowsub]

well people after talking to grant the engine builder hes doing the repairs at his cost so on the 16 of July I did road trip to taupo were i meet grant and his side kick mark now these guys are ALLSOME :) :) :)

I court the bus home

friday the 21 july I did another road trip but this time to rotorua to collect the car

not has only grant stood buy his work-shipment hes replaced both gaskets :) :)

these guys are all some!!!!!!!

i brought this engine 2 years ago the on going support from grant is outstanding i would recommend his engines to anyone