Gilmer Pulley Setups

[nismovzr2003]

Hey guys,

Just wondering what people think about running Gilmer pulley setups on the EJ.

Have researched a little, I see there are a few subby\'s running them, are they something worth while?

Cheers.

[funkytown]

ummmm what is it in your opinion you see them doing thats worth while exactly?

[Joker]

how many million killawasps do you have that your getting belt slippage?

[boon]

 nismovzr2003 said:

Hey guys,

Just wondering what people think about running Gilmer pulley setups on the EJ.

Have researched a little, I see there are a few subby\'s running them, are they something worth while?

Cheers.

Expensive wank on an EJ. If anything the huge pulleys = increase parasitic loss.

[Joker]

is the white wagon on TM still being parted out with these?

buy that motor

edit : this one http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/car-parts-accessories/subaru/other/auction-595186604.htm

[nismovzr2003]

Was just a thought, just for looks I guess.

[petrolheadjman]

And the sound

[Kiwi_Fozze]

when i had a chat to the guy that\'s doing the tm part out, iirc he was at the 1500 mark for what the gilmer belt owed him after custom fabrication

[Roo]

Lol I\'m playing with things atm making one myself, if it\'s successful I\'ll post up.

At this stage looks like the power steering will end up being a little under-driven which should make steering feel a bit \'sportier\'

[nismovzr2003]

I\'ve been speaking with Endeavour Engineering in Tauranga, $695.00 including gst, simply send in your existing pulley\'s for them to use as a template to make the new one\'s.

[Roo]

Wow that\'s a lot

The timing gear off a scrap motor has enough toothed pulleys in the right sizes that will work with a bit of time on the laithe.. I made an alternator pulley today i\'ll have to get a picture for you

[lachlan]

As much as its a faggot idea in the first place . I do like your method

[Roo]

I\'m just doing it for a laugh really cause I have the pulleys and a laithe at work

Not sure what to do for a belt yet. Have a ca18 cam belt sitting round but it\'s more a good length for a flipped alternator

[Roo]

Here\'s the alternator pulley, turned down the alt pulley and pressed (fucken tight) into the toothed idler that usually has a couple of bearings in it. Added some "quick metal" for good measure

Bored out the centre of a cam pulley today to 24mm to suit the crank. Turns out where the locating dowel sits is in the right place and is the right size for the cranks keyway and thick enough too. May need spaced out but we\'ll see. If I can get measurements of the p/s pump pulleys hole and how far offset it is from the pump that\'d be great.

If there\'s interest i\'d almost make a set or two

[nismovzr2003]

I\'d be real keen just depends on price!

[Roo]

Certainly wouldn\'t be 700 that\'s for sure lol

Price would depend on whether you can supply parts. I\'ll happily do it for half what you\'ve been quoted? Not going to go making them for people until I have a setup on my own to see if it\'s going to work and not throw belts all the time or something silly. Last thing I want is a bad name for myself/my work.

[nismovzr2003]

Yeah I\'ve noticed the gilmer ones in particular the power steering pulley has a ridge around the outside to stop the belt coming off

[nismovzr2003]

I\'m currently running GFB pullies so dont really want to hack those up, I\'ll have to source some factory ones, shouldn\'t be too difficult, I take it it\'s just a set of pulleys plus cam gear and sprocket?

[Roo]

So far I see it requiring

-Alternator pulley

-2xCam gears

-Toothed idler (two on an ej20, usually have bearings inside)

I had enough for two sets but scrapped a tonne of old parts and ended up only keeping enough to make one set.

Will update list as I go. Hopefully getting my hands on a p/s pump tomorrow so I can start on the p/s pulley.

I believe two of the cam gears have lipped sides to stop the belt coming off, mine don\'t though but iirc they came off after receiving hammer action.

[Roo]

Just went and checked the cam gear I still have at home here. It\'s a LHS one which i\'m kicking myself for now because the RHS ones have the two lips and have a better offset shape to them for clearance

[nismovzr2003]

 Roo said:

Just went and checked the cam gear I still have at home here. It\'s a LHS one which i\'m kicking myself for now because the RHS ones have the two lips and have a better offset shape to them for clearance

The old cam gears you are referring to, are these the old steel p1 type?

[Roo]

 nismovzr2003']

[quote name='Roo said:

Just went and checked the cam gear I still have at home here. It\'s a LHS one which i\'m kicking myself for now because the RHS ones have the two lips and have a better offset shape to them for clearance

/quote]

The old cam gears you are referring to, are these the old steel p1 type?

yep that\'s right. Do p2 have plastic ones?

[Guest]

 Roo']

[quote name='Roo said:

Just went and checked the cam gear I still have at home here. It\'s a LHS one which i\'m kicking myself for now because the RHS ones have the two lips and have a better offset shape to them for clearance

/quote]

The old cam gears you are referring to, are these the old steel p1 type?

yep that\'s right. Do p2 have plastic ones?

My V5 and 6 sti heads both did. Dont v3/4 have a mix?

[nismovzr2003]

V3/v4 are plastic to, I\'m pretty sure it was the early legacy heads that had the steel p1 cam gears, not sure about the v1/v2 heads however.

[Roo]

I can\'t remember what mine were from when I did my cam belt now lol

These are off an ej20g out of an 89 rs legacy. I would guess most early motors would use the same timing gear, so a stuffed 1.5 would be cheap as.