Camber Bolt Suggestions

[GC8E2DD]

Who's using what? I gather the Whiteline ones go for around ~$90. Anyone using alternatives or can suggest a good retailer (or wholesaler if you have hookups)? I'm looking for more than stock in the front (in the 2-3 deg range), and potentially a set to fix the V7/8-STi-strut-in-a-classic-positive-camber issue.

[Guest]

Hmmm me?

[Scoobydoo]

Or Dave - DacerX who's in Chch

[GC8E2DD]

Yeah ok Clint, what's the damage on a set? I'm not keen to repeat the endlink debacle. I know Whiteline have a good reputation, but they can't have a monopoly on metallurgy ...

[Optical]

I hate my whiteline ones... Non OEM bolt head sizes (16mm or something) and they slip too often

Are there alternatives?

Next time I have the struts out I'm going to slot the clevis holes and go back to OEM bolts

[GC8E2DD]

There is some outfit called Ingalls that makes some, and I'm sure I'd heard of another. Maybe I ought to slot the fronts; I'm not really sure how to go about it safely. Also unsure if slotting is an option in the rear to fix positive camber if I pick up some V8 struts.

Check out that left front ...

Edited October 5, 2015 by GC8E2DD

[Guest]

Well tbh the cheapcheap ones on ebay look no different to the whiteline ones. Text me tomorrow to remind me and ill find out.

[loner]

slotting is always an option... camber bolts are always going to be weaker than stock as they are thinner.

I could never get them very tight either.... they just stretch.

[Guest]

Camber plates no good or better geometry using both?

[boon]

 Optical said:

I hate my whiteline ones... Non OEM bolt head sizes (16mm or something) and they slip too often

Are there alternatives?

Next time I have the struts out I'm going to slot the clevis holes and go back to OEM bolts

Maybe talk to Macbilt? I'm 99% sure they built my clevis mounts and they have an obscene amount of camber adjustment which I will never actually use.

Being inverted struts it's relatively easy to remove the insert and then you're safe enough to weld onto the clevis, mine have kinda like 2 little tracks with a very large eccentric washer located by a flat on the shaft of the bolt, similar to the whiteline ones only way more industrial and the washer/track combination helps it stay where you put it.

EDIT: The clevis hole is slotted horizontally and the tracks are at 90 degrees to the slot, the washer moves up and down the track which causes the off-centre bolt to slide along the slot. There's no lobe on the bolt so it's the full thickness and once you torque it all up it's not going to move as you have the entire face of the washer (on both sides) as a friction surface, plus the forces required to rotate the assembly are in a quite different direction to normal.

I would estimate there would be close to 20mm in horizontal movement between maximum and minimum camber, a lot more than a lobed bolt is ever going to get you as it's limited by the size of the hole it has to pass through.

Edited October 5, 2015 by boon

[Percy]

 boon said:

Maybe talk to Macbilt? I'm 99% sure they built my clevis mounts and they have an obscene amount of camber adjustment which I will never actually use.

Being inverted struts it's relatively easy to remove the insert and then you're safe enough to weld onto the clevis, mine have kinda like 2 little tracks with a very large eccentric washer located by a flat on the shaft of the bolt, similar to the whiteline ones only way more industrial and the washer/track combination helps it stay where you put it.

EDIT: The clevis hole is slotted horizontally and the tracks are at 90 degrees to the slot, the washer moves up and down the track which causes the off-centre bolt to slide along the slot. There's no lobe on the bolt so it's the full thickness and once you torque it all up it's not going to move as you have the entire face of the washer (on both sides) as a friction surface, plus the forces required to rotate the assembly are in a quite different direction to normal.

I would estimate there would be close to 20mm in horizontal movement between maximum and minimum camber, a lot more than a lobed bolt is ever going to get you as it's limited by the size of the hole it has to pass through.

That sounds like teh same setup that Valiants have from factory, might investigate doing that to teh Track Hack, front and rear.

If it works some may find their way onto the daily...

[boon]

Yup, that looks to be it exactly:

[Percy]

 boon said:

Yup, that looks to be it exactly:

Yep, thats the one!

I'm sure I have some Val ones somewhere... pity they're all in BS sizes, not metric.

[Munkvy]

Sam I have a set of Whiteline ones I have never used here if you want to try them out?

[GC8E2DD]

Do you actually want to sell them Viv? I was leaning towards slotting after reading a few DIYs.

[Munkvy]

Yup can do.

[kamineko]

I used a kit from Autolign when I had factory struts, very similar looking to the generic image here http://www.autolign.co.nz/catalogue/alignment-parts/camber-adjusting-bolts with a cam mid shaft

Unlike the previous posted picture that appears to have a zinc finish the appearance is sort of of a sandblasted grey, I was told they are hardened, or that may have been written on the box

Bit of a pain to install but no issues and could achieve at least -1deg on factory GC rear

Might still have them around since I went to adjusties, haven't seen them for awhile though