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Hey guys, im looking into buying a subaru Outback and need some advice. I will be using it as a daily, and will be taking it for several skiing trips throughout the season, also next summer I will likely be using it to tow a small boat. At the moment two best deals I can get that i like the idea of (through contacts with dealers) are: 

2005 Outback 3.0R. pearl white ext. black leather int. 73000 kms. $9500

2012 Outback 2.5l. pearl white ext. black cloth int. 97000 kms. $12000 

both are fresh imports. 

I guess my questions are, is the 2.5l engine okay? (with cambelt issues etc.) Will fuel on the 3.0 cost me a significant amount more? Is the price difference I would be paying for the newer model worth it? Any advice on any of these questions or more info would be massively appreciated, Cheers! 

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45 minutes ago, iludez said:

Go for the 3.0r more robust engine.

What makes you say that? I definitely would rather go 3.0R as well but considering the car itself is 7 years older is it worth it? 

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From what I've seen 9.5 for a prefacelift 3.0 is not a bargain at all. 

 

You're also looking at 5AT vs. CVT. 

If you're mostly doing inner city/heavy traffic commute then 3.0 will certainly suck more, open road they're all good. Definitely better for towing purposes. I'd certainly aim for a facelift 2006+ 3.0 rather than a prefacelift.

 

5th gen have about the same boot but definitely more head and leg room for the rear passengers if matters for you. 

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2 minutes ago, sobanoodle said:

From what I've seen 9.5 for a prefacelift 3.0 is not a bargain at all. 

 

You're also looking at 5AT vs. CVT. 

If you're mostly doing inner city/heavy traffic commute then 3.0 will certainly suck more, open road they're all good. Definitely better for towing purposes. I'd certainly aim for a facelift 2006+ 3.0 rather than a prefacelift.

 

5th gen have about the same boot but definitely more head and leg room for the rear passengers if matters for you. 

Thanks for the input man. This is where i'm struggling to decide, I will be driving from christchurch to mt hutt (about 120km open road) probably once every 1-2 weeks. But then I'm also anticipating driving to uni in town traffic (10km)  probably 2-3 days a week. @sobanoodleWould the 2.5 be better in this case and would you say the offer I've been given for the 2012 2.5 is an okay price? 

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That seems like stuuuupid money for the 2005 if I'm honest, unless it's a top-spec NZ model and immaculate.

 

How big is a small boat? We used to tow a 14.5ft alloy boat around with a 3.0 and it went really really well, but if you go too much bigger the gearbox starts to suffer a bit. Mind you I know a bloke that towed a much heavier 5.5m boat all over the country with his and it didn't seem to mind too much.

 

EDIT: Also worth investigating some of the trim level differences... for example quite a lot of the NZ 3.0's got a ?plate? rear differential which will make a big difference for skifield roads and pulling a boat up a s****y boat ramp.

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47 minutes ago, boon said:

That seems like stuuuupid money for the 2005 if I'm honest, unless it's a top-spec NZ model and immaculate.

 

How big is a small boat? We used to tow a 14.5ft alloy boat around with a 3.0 and it went really really well, but if you go too much bigger the gearbox starts to suffer a bit. Mind you I know a bloke that towed a much heavier 5.5m boat all over the country with his and it didn't seem to mind too much.

 

EDIT: Also worth investigating some of the trim level differences... for example quite a lot of the NZ 3.0's got a ?plate? rear differential which will make a big difference for skifield roads and pulling a boat up a s****y boat ramp.

Thanks for the advice @boon it's a super old fi-glass fireball i think hull length is around 4.5m think this would be fine to tow with the 2.5l?

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1 hour ago, boon said:

Oh yeah there's nothing to those older ones. Modern 2.5 would tow it just fine.

awesome thanks! In your opinion does $12,000 sound pretty reasonable for the 2012 model I mentioned?

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