Yep fair enough, but the car in question in the first post is a turbo 2.0.I cant really see what the problem is with people having to concentrate when driving a manual, I know what gear im in at any time and can change gear without having to concentrate/think about it.A car it safer for ANYONE if they are a confident driver, be it an auto or manual.I could also call myself a professional driver, but for the last 10 yrs have gone back to racing motorcycles.The only safe road to drive on is one free from drunk/druged/incompetent/speeding drivers, which is impossible with the caliber of drivers in this country.