soopersubaru

LOL...NO but i like his style.

care to explain why? Is it able to be used on the road? or the track? or is it just for you to sit in for 400 metres? IN MY OPINION: Drag cars are a WOFT.(only for the narsosistic) And as has been pointed out.....its not even a subaru. Despite your comment about this thread being about engine bays only................I believe the intention would be to have subaru engine bays...................Not ugly skyline stuff! Tarmac is for pussies anyways.........Gravel is where you learn to drive!

Waste o money......

Yes............It is useless on the gravel. : : >

Bad call on taxi V car. Good start to reasons for/against. and the 3yr new car is a way to free up the system? It is a good way to get SOME bad examples over the over 13year age cars off the road. Makes sense. But there will still be some cars that during their first 3yrs will get thrashed to the point where something will fall off due to use decay(Km ) as opposed to time decay(years) Of course it will be driven by an idiot with no idea of mechanics. who will still have it on its first oil change probably. Further will not know how to open the bonnet either. How do we pick these cars up? Ambo and a tow truck usually.

Hey Scott...WELL done looks good...............Still WAIC for me though!

This new ruling further supports the rich by allowing them to drive around without spending $50 every 6months on their new cars. And as above...............The true age of a vehicle is the Km travelled. Heres an example:- A retire e and a Taxi driver both purchase a new Falcon today................In three years one will have maybe 30,000K on the clock, the taxi will have around 300,000K Yet neither are required to have been checked in the previous 3 years!............Madness!

Pull ya head in! I don\'t give a toss!........I will always retaliate to being attacked........Everytime!! Esp if sworn at!

Really?.....Why do you need a reservoir? There is only one SOOPERCOOLER. How does yours work? Flow? Internal baffles? Front radiator surface area? Temp drop across the core? Any data? At all?

The oil switch idea will work quite well................Using temp sensing may cause issues. Because the higher temp when sensed is too late to apply cooling.........You need to be cooler before boost is required to get the best result. Flogging the dead horse again but here goes. TRY THIS (As some one has suggested it already) http://www.clubsub.org.nz/forum/index.php/topic,18866.0.html

As above LOL....... What more can i say?

Back to this subject of the fan......Spray will be more effective....just drips everywhere if used when stopped on a FMIC system......Noticable improvement though as mentioned.

absolutely!... And will provide significant results due to latent heat of vapourisation transfer....Go for it.

possible his is up tp 50kg...This one is not. http://www.clubsub.org.nz/forum/index.php/topic,18866.msg350552.html#msg350552.. It maybe 7-8 kg more than a FMIC No more.... Just remember ....Fitting a FMIC adds weight .... Unless you had a WAIC prior.....Then its about the same......Overall my system (soopercooler) may add around 5 kg to overall weight.

WTF?....Some people just ask to be trashed...............Where do you get 50Kg from? The idea behind my idea was to get effective turbo cooling for my 250Kw unit AND also hide it....My vehicle is a sleepa......Does not even have or need a bonnet vent......PYHI !

Yes! they work well at speed.....My cooler stays at 6-8 above ambient.... NO im not looking to argue! One could say they are both FMIC systems.... Just one has more mass/weight...Which is advantageous at lower speeds.....Providing higher speeds are achieved AND no boost time is allowed for recovery.

Mr EVOWRX.....As you have asked. As above commented by STOFFA. The reason that a WAIC performs better than a AAIC on the occasion of full boost at a standstill is:- The heatsink ability of water witihin the intercooler is greater due to its mass being more than that of a AAIC. Usually made of aluminium. The boost duration is critical at this time!....As the speed of air increases through the AAIC cooling of its mass occurs.....If we say the following occurs (theory) Boost is maintained for a period of 60 seconds to the point where no effective cooling is occuring as the intercooler has become heatsunk. 60 seconds is a long time to maintain boost! If the same test is done on a WAIC boost could be maintained untill the entire system is "heatsunk". Depending on the volume. Therefore this period can be easily longer than 60 seconds due to the increased mass of the system. Mr TURBOSMART The Yank you refer to has a 5 gallon system. Lots of weight i agree! Have you read this though. http://www.clubsub.org.nz/forum/index.php/topic,18866.msg263039.html#msg263039 This system has less mass. There is plenty of off boost time in the ordinary road car for system recovery. The benefit is:= During short duration high boost (take off)(overtaking) the WAIC maintains lower IAT than an AAIC would in the same situation. Has that helped? The FMIC is terrific at long duration hi speed boost cooling. With less weight than a WAIC system

Point noted..... However as i was attacked first in this post.... I simply responded.. I Have also pointed out why this idea of a fan is ridiculous....AAIC does have issues for the stop start application. Both in TMIC and FMIC configuration due to their low heat sink ability. Either "fanned" or not. Therefore another type of IC with a high heatsink ability is required.......This other IC has the ability to cope with stop/start...Further it does well at cruise speeds and above......Which therefore suits the road car application. (no more comment from me!)

the fan idea will not work!...........Stupid at best!

Nek minit Ka boom!......ded engine lol

I have children older than you....Have some respect ....You are the chump! That is probably why you think a WAIC system is high maintenance....The difference in weight between the two systems would also be less than 5 kg. Therefore absolutly no difference in performance due to weight. However the increase in initail launch torque due to better cooling provided by a WAIC will give you the edge! This is what the originator of this post is trying to achieve is it not? Better intercooler cooling at a standstill prior to launch?

How many of your posts are reiterating the same point chap? Facts are facts.............what can i say?...........LISTEN?............Its common sense!.....Use what works best for your application. Simple really...............The Yanks are onto it! Why try and make the FMIC system work better for your road car when its more suited to track work and the WAIC system works better in this application?

That would have to be the best idea!...WAIC. Best solution!

If you have a close look at the sensing end of the G4 IAT sensor you will see a small bead...This is the connection that makes up this J (Jay) type thermocouple. If this bead bit is in a full air flow area heat soak issues do not apply. I peeled the plastic off mine so that is more exposed to airflow.....Works well.....Instant responce to air temp regardless of Intake metal work temp....Ceramic coat on manifold also assists.

Here is another WAIC that Americans are getting into. Its about time Kiwis did it too.....Coz it works best! http://bigskysubaru.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=2005