Is anyone running Kinugawa Td05 20G Twin Scroll turbo?

[KingCole]

Hi all,

I am looking for an upgrade for my VF37 and aim is around 270kw on 98 with ~25psi boost on stock block with supporting mods and I was thinking to buy the Kinugawa Td05 20G Twin Scroll turbo but does anyone have any experience on the spool and power?

Any input will be appreciated.

[Guest]

Talk to ninja/spence on here for real world exp hes running a td06sl2 20g t/s iirc. I doubt you would get within a bulls roar of 270wkw with a stock td05h turbine more like 240-250wkw. Maybe if it was murched you would get there if the rest of your setup works well. Could get murch to bang something together in a t/s kinugawa housing - genuine parts and likely cheaper.

[KingCole]

 evowrx said:

Talk to ninja/spence on here for real world exp hes running a td06sl2 20g t/s iirc. I doubt you would get within a bulls roar of 270wkw with a stock td05h turbine more like 240-250wkw. Maybe if it was murched you would get there if the rest of your setup works well. Could get murch to bang something together in a t/s kinugawa housing - genuine parts and likely cheaper.

Oh I see, no worries. As far as I know, td06 20G are known to be a bit laggy so might have to see if there is another option that has better response and top end.

[Guest]

What do you define as laggy tho dude? T/S and avcs make big differences to any turbo and help you cheat to achieve both low/top rather than having to choose. My murched td05/garrett made 20psi by 4k s/s no avcs and was a fair bit bigger than a 20g. That 221wkw tune getting old already?

[loner]

Kinugawa turbos are chinese... in case you didn't know.

[KingCole]

 evowrx said:

What do you define as laggy tho dude? T/S and avcs make big differences to any turbo and help you cheat to achieve both low/top rather than having to choose. My murched td05/garrett made 20psi by 4k s/s no avcs and was a fair bit bigger than a 20g. That 221wkw tune getting old already?

I see, Yeap the AVCS and ported heads will help spool. I was thinking of 25 psi by 4300 which would be really good for power level of 270kw+. I was also looking at Blouch 1.5Xtr with 10cm^2 t/s housing and that should easily satisfy the spool and power but that is bloody expensive.

Haha yeah 221kw seems slow for me now since I drive the car daily and abuse it.

[KingCole]

 loner said:

Kinugawa turbos are chinese... in case you didn't know.

Theres a thread on Nasioc that has kinugawa turbo results and looks pretty decent for what they are worth.

[Guest]

Have a talk to al see what he recommends. Those stx/71 whatevers seem to work well but no idea on cost. One being tested in nz soon im keen to see how it goes on an nz dyno. Gt3071 jobs seem to work well but big $$ like you say and if they **** out its over.

You got any other mods planned or just turbo/injectors?

[KingCole]

 evowrx said:

Have a talk to al see what he recommends. Those stx/71 whatevers seem to work well but no idea on cost. One being tested in nz soon im keen to see how it goes on an nz dyno. Gt3071 jobs seem to work well but big $$ like you say and if they **** out its over.

You got any other mods planned or just turbo/injectors?

I believe Al is running the 2.5XTR with 10% meth on his built 2.35L and he made over 300kw without really pushing it. I saw a few STX67/71 results on nasioc but there are mixed reviews, some people think they are laggy and dont really produce much power of the 20Gs.

I am thinking of beginning the next stage of modding sometime next year.

Also some of the supporting mods, I think injectors (might decap stock ones though as Brad was saying they flow quite a bit and is only a couple of hundred bucks cost), HDi FMIC, a heavy duty (and street friendly) clutch since mine is on its way out due to constant launches.

Wbu? What are you running?

[Guest]

Im running decap pinks came out at 840cc and cost me $96 shipped to get them cleaned and flowtested thro d-tech I decapped them myself. That murch job I was running was awesome and was making similar power on 14psi at far lower IAT with my own road tuning as the gcp 227wkw tune at 20psi with VF22. But few silly decisions later and now Ive got an EJ257 AVCS and Ill be mucking round with turbo again. http://clubsub.org.nz/forum/showthread.php?28043-GF8-wrx-family-wagon

http://clubsub.org.nz/forum/showthread.php?42569-Decapping-top-feed-injectors-how-to&highlight=decap+injector don't listen to soopers comments Im not sure why his stayed and the rest were deleted.

Would be interesting to see how the HDi one goes otherwise seems the redline would do the job. http://clubsub.org.nz/forum/showthread.php?44585-GDB-FMIC-advice

[johnny5]

Intersted to see the results dude nice plan you have there

[KingCole]

 evowrx']Im running decap pinks came out at 840cc and cost me $96 shipped to get them cleaned and flowtested thro d-tech I decapped them myself. That murch job I was running was awesome and was making similar power on 14psi at far lower IAT with my own road tuning as the gcp 227wkw tune at 20psi with VF22. But few silly decisions later and now Ive got an EJ257 AVCS and Ill be mucking round with turbo again. http://clubsub.org.nz/forum/showthread.php?28043-GF8-wrx-family-wagon

http://clubsub.org.nz/forum/showthread.php?42569-Decapping-top-feed-injectors-how-to&highlight=decap+injector don't listen to soopers comments Im not sure why his stayed and the rest were deleted.

Would be interesting to see how the HDi one goes otherwise seems the redline would do the job. http://clubsub.org.nz/forum/showthread.php?44585-GDB-FMIC-advice

Thats a really nice result for that price! I might just do that when it comes to my upgrade as I think 840cc would do the job. What made you go down the ej257 route over ej207??

[quote name='johnny5 said:

Intersted to see the results dude nice plan you have there

Yeah man, I have seen a few guys on nasioc running 1.5XTR on their ej207s on e85 hitting 300kw at the wheels.

[Guest]

840cc should see you over 300wkw on pump.

Nothing really I swore I would always keep the 2l and add avcs one day kind of had some heads lined up that I was going to drop 272's into but mate had this and was keen to swap so it happened. Couldn't see a downside for a street car and love the way the power ramps up. I got over the VF thing real quick the way it always came on boost but way diff to displacement+boost this ticks nicely down low on part throttle and should still have nuts up top.

[EJ20T]

Td05h exhaust wheel ..can.. support 270wkw in the correct application, I.e a mitsubishi, but personally personally on a subaru I would say 250, you know people have done 240 on 20psi on vf37's

[Guest]

 EJ20T said:

Td05h exhaust wheel ..can.. support 270wkw in the correct application, I.e a mitsubishi, but personally personally on a subaru I would say 250, you know people have done 240 on 20psi on vf37's

You're talking about a stock untrimmed/chopped turbine?

[KingCole]

Check here: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2502719

So many people are making over 270kw at the wheels on TD05 20G on pump...

[Guest]

 KingCole said:

Check here: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2502719

So many people are making over 270kw at the wheels on TD05 20G on pump...

Sts 9 blade turbine isnt standard td05h dude. If that 340whp is a td05h stock turbine its 253wkw all the others above that are the 9b.