steering column play -

[gazzy2000]

hey, in my BG5, i have an after market steering wheel, if i pull on the steering wheel it pops out 10-15mm, i have identified that its not the after market steering and the boss kit is fine etc

I know that on some older cars teh steering coloumn used used to calapse if you hit the shaft too hard (built in weak point for crashes etc) ppl do hit the shaft to crack the steering wheel off the spline.

I think someone may have hit it too hard on mine to get the wheel off hense teh shaft play.

Does anyone know how to fix this, or even if i am looking in the right area?

I have checked under the bonnet and i cant see that end bit moving or any thing else moving?

or maybe, is this play normal and there is a spacer missing?

[ReubenH]

Is the nut that holds the wheel on done up? Take the airbag out, or whatever may be in the way, and check maybe...

[gazzy2000]

 ReubenH said:

Is the nut that holds the wheel on done up? Take the airbag out, or whatever may be in the way, and check maybe...

yip, steering wheel is tight as, i can see the whole shaft moving. No airbag

as stated i cant see the spline moving where it attaches under the bonet but am now wondering if there is another spline just inside the firewall that may be loose....

[monolith]

There is a universal joint inside the cabin, not far from where it goes through the firewall.

Personally I'd see this gets remedied before I drive any further, as this universal removing itself = no steering.

[gazzy2000]

well i took the steering column off the BG5 i have for parts to see how it all goes to gether,

and there is no universal inside the firewall

I'd use this steering column but the car has 235kms on it and mine is only 136

Easy enough to get out, but i would kind of like to fix mine if i could.

i kind of looks like the steering column has a wack damaging/triggering the calapse mechanism

can these be reset or fixed?

[gazzy2000]

righto, well i cant see anything obvious, but i do suspect teh steering has callapsed

since i cant see any way to repair it i will get a S/H one.

Next question is... teh key barrel, we all know they are a b1tch as they have no actual head (philips or otherwise) to be able to screw the two bolts out...

if i get another steering column i wanna be able to keep my key barrel, is there a way to just pop the guts of them out to easily interchange them? or do you have to munt the bolts/bracket to get them off

cheers

[Guest boostcut]

once you have the column out, use a centre punch, then just fit cap screws to it when you fit it back in.

[gazzy2000]

 boostcut said:

once you have the column out, use a centre punch, then just fit cap screws to it when you fit it back in.

thanks

geez, there really is no info on callapsable steering aye, i have found in a subaru manual for some american model round the same year to remove the shaft and measure the whole length, if its not with specs ditch and get a new one. so meh??

[Guest boostcut]

yeah, its not really something that gives trouble tho....

have you tried giving it a solid whack? to try put it back into place?

maybe you could buy a tack weld if you could see where its moving lol

[gazzy2000]

 boostcut said:

yeah, its not really something that gives trouble tho....

have you tried giving it a solid whack? to try put it back into place?

maybe you could buy a tack weld if you could see where its moving lol

lol, id say some ball bagus has wacked it enough already when trying to free the wheel off the spline, and the factory callapse safety mechanisum just did its job

[Guest boostcut]

yeah, well i dont think you could do any more damage.

[gazzy2000]

 boostcut said:

yeah, well i dont think you could do any more damage.

i should take a quick vid and post it on YT

[Guest boostcut]

yeah man, do it!

[gazzy2000]

 boostcut said:

yeah man, do it!

k up loading to YT now, can do a vid with wheel and combo meter off aswell but there is nothing to see... the shaft with the steering wheel spline simply moves in and out

the spare shaft i have in the vid has 235kms on it, so not keen to use that as my car has 135kms

[Guest boostcut]

235kms on it or not, if it doesnt move, its gotta be better than what you have haha.

[Guest]

 boostcut said:

235kms on it or not, if it doesnt move, its gotta be better than what you have haha.

sounds like the truth right there

-smurff

[gazzy2000]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCrnrVwm28k

[Guest]

 gazzy2000 said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCrnrVwm28k

looks fine to me :P hehehe

-smurff

[DRFVDR]

mmmm that certainly is moving i would guess you are correct in your assumption that it has collapsed I use a "ezyout" to remove the bolts that hold the key barrel in quick and easy and yes use capscrews to replace them with( u can actully buy new bolts if u want the security )

[gazzy2000]

 DRFVDR said:

mmmm that certainly is moving i would guess you are correct in your assumption that it has collapsed I use a "ezyout" to remove the bolts that hold the key barrel in quick and easy and yes use capscrews to replace them with( u can actully buy new bolts if u want the security )

yea, just rang rosscoes in ashburton, $80 for a known good one with low KMs

he has BGs for christmas there

[gazzy2000]

brought a s/h steering column off rosscos in ashvegas

its the two letters on the column that the wreckers use to match up the correct part, mine was CD (for my referance) there are differanet colums for air bag models etc so you do have to get the right one.

Used a dot punch to get the screws in the ignition barrel off, then hack sawed a flat head screw driver slot for ease of re-fitting the srews

Fitted it today and its mint! it now means that the indicators turn off properly too, thank fuk!

Comparing the two columns i cud see that someone must have hit the shaft on the bad one (to get the steering wheel off) prolly causing it to callapse, i cud see the hit marks, where-by the good one from rosscos was shiny & smooth.