2002 legacy gtb e-tune 2 rev-d issues

[kramerk]

hey all ive only had this car for about 2 weeks, bought from economy cars christchurch. has 3 month mta warranty.

I insisted the cambelt and associated gear was replaced before i took ownership. the car has done 96,000km they used "elite cambelt services" anyone else heard of them and know of their reputation?

anyway noticed the front sunroof doesnt tilt but you can push it up so i assume its not a fixed roof just broken, the rear roof slides back no problems. will get them to look at it.

the main issue i have is the hard out hesitation. im aware of what turbo lag and the obvious vod, not a complete super noob

even changing gear and foot down on the accelerator before vod it hesitates\surges and feels like boost is intermittant, starting to annoy me. looks like its off to get a diagnostic report on the 14th. i would buy a scanner but the mta warranty insists you dont mess with the car while its under warranty. maybe the cambelt was done incorrectly or cheap parts used (especially the tensioner), i know they broken the cam cover and has a big gap in the top side.

my first suby costing 13k giving me grief after 2 weeks of ownership. im first nz owner as well

[Kiwi_Fozze]

Detonation. Etune notorious for it. Reflashable computer in it as it's rev-d, dial out some timing and it should be better. Replace spark plugs...

[neil2121]

Have a look at this maybe..

http://www.clubsub.org.nz/forum/index.php/topic,29041.0.html

[Kiwiflyboy]

Make sure you are only using 98 octane on it as well. Def go for spark plugs and good clean out with upper engine cleaner

[kramerk]

yeah thanks guys, can anyone actually reflash these ecus in the south island?? , im actually hoping the scan throws out some codes. ive done the connections under the dash to try manually throwing codes and it comes up clean. does this always mean theres no problem or can it still be throwing codes without illuminating the cel?

[kramerk]

check with the 98! never used anything else since we could get it, all cars ive had run mint on 98.

[Marky]

Dont spend a cent, take it back to the dealer, thats why you buy from a dealer not private.

[kramerk]

exactly mate, i reckon i probably payed 3k more than i could have got one from a private sale. So i expect it to be sorted

[kramerk]

economy cars has agreed to have a "mechanic" look at my car, dont like not being able to choose who works on my car

[Marky]

Since you have it from a yard, you do have the right of return (to a degree) - if it's not behaving as it should, the problem does have to be sorted. I had similar issues with a GTB from indy cars, seemed mint on test drive but within a week was playing up, to be fair they weren't to know either, AFM sh@t itself and a couple other things I think. They did sort it all in the end.

To be fair it's the risk they take being a second hand car dealer.

And while it may be annoying if they pick a mechanic, least it'll get sorted, if not you can start getting vocal - since they're LMVD they have standards they need to stick to in regards to this kind of thing.

[kramerk]

yeah pretty sure they have the right to rectify/repair the problem first on the first opportunity. otherwise its refund time

[kramerk]

just found the rear muffler nearly rusted through peeled a layer off!!! im gunna have to do a list to take to them monday. or i'll forget something

[kramerk]

so they reckon there is nothing wrong with the engine and the way it runs. explaining to me about the VOD. i explained im not a complete noob and i know what the VOD is and its not what im talking about. its been diagnostic checked twice all coming up clean. Crowe sport wrote a letter stating no faults found.

when i change from first gear before vod and hook second and plant it, should i be instantly on boost from primary turbo or not? or is this the way they are, non responsive and a bit of a slug?? if you rape it it doesnt hesitate, pulls nicely to redline

they were not interested at all about the sunroof not tilting or the muffler about rusted through, mta warranty is overated, economy cars are making a killing and not interested in pleasing customers. i do not reccomend them at all, although the salesman was pleasant

i did pick up a fujitsubo R98 exhaust though ;D, should sound like a suby should now, also got a blitz induction cover setup as well which should go well with the snorkelectomy

[gazzy2000]

 kramerk said:

when i change from first gear before vod and hook second and plant it, should i be instantly on boost from primary turbo or not? or is this the way they are, non responsive and a bit of a slug?? if you rape it it doesnt hesitate, pulls nicely to redline

summary: yes they are all like this, more or less, i will go out on a limb here n say Twin Turbo owners that say their cars go well are delusional and have prolly never owned a WRX .. BAM! spray and walk away ;D

Twin turbos suck ass ;D

[kramerk]

oh well better crack the dust off the engine stand and build a single turb engine then. the responsiveness will bug me in a few months time!!

[Kiwiflyboy]

 kramerk said:

oh well better crack the dust off the engine stand and build a single turb engine then. the responsiveness will bug me in a few months time!!

I have a rev c gtb and could meet up and see the difference/issue u are having with yours if your keen. In theroy urs should be slightly better due to a newer ecu

[kramerk]

cheers man , will keep that in mind

[Kiwi_Fozze]

A reflash from what i'm aware could possibly reduce the vod, worth looking in to

[kramerk]

can anyone actually verify who still CURRENTLY do the reflashes on the rev-d's,

i heard armstrong subaru christchurch do to a certain extent, correct me if im wrong but just by road testing the car? $250-300 ish

who does the reflashes on the dyno in the south island to get it perfect and to squeeze out a few more ponies? $1500 ish

i heard no one actually has the ability to properly reflash these anymore, or am i wrong

[Marky]

NZEFI can, don't know if they're selling it as such but definately has been done.

Since yours is a rev-d it can be reflashed, and if nothing else they would be good for a second opinion on how the car is running - even just a quick run up on the dyno will show how it is performing compared to another one the same.

[kramerk]

sweet thanks man all good info