BP5 5EAT blown turbo...let the games begin!

[polyarkos]

Hi Team,

I've blown my turbo, shaft has snapped and there is not much left of the blades. Mods so far include Subtech DP, HKS 3" cat back, and a custom TMIC from Scottie (scottiescottiescottie?) with 133k on the clock. So I'm on the lookout for a new turbo and need some advice.

Option 1: Subaru want $3635 + GST for just the VF38, no labour/install etc

Option 2: http://drivenperformance.co.nz/products-page/kinugawa/kinugawa-japan-td04hla-19t-gtx-legacy-bp5-bl5-twin-scroll-turbo/ This turbo is supposed to be a direct replacement abit slightly larger. Al is checking with Kinugawa to confirm it will work on the 5EAT. $1450inc.

Option 3: http://www.subaruspeed.co.nz/products/turbo-charger-new-vf38-bp-legacy It's a copy, comes with a limited warranty, and its roughly $850inc.

I'm open to all ideas and advice. What are the chances of this happening again, and what else do I need to undertake to make sure no more damage is done?

I'm also looking for an E-tune once the turbo is on, looking at getting one from the States but would rather support a local who can do a good job.

Thanks in advance,

JP

[syphe]

alot of the Aus guys get the VF38's rebuilt with VF34 internals, worth looking into I reckon, as you'll get better results after your tune.

[polyarkos]

 syphe said:

alot of the Aus guys get the VF38's rebuilt with VF34 internals, worth looking into I reckon, as you'll get better results after your tune.

Turbo housing is pretty naffed on both sides but I'll look into this, any recomendations to do the work?

[Rosssub]

 polyarkos said:

Hi Team,

I've blown my turbo, shaft has snapped and there is not much left of the blades. Mods so far include Subtech DP, HKS 3" cat back, and a custom TMIC from Scottie (scottiescottiescottie?) with 133k on the clock. So I'm on the lookout for a new turbo and need some advice.

JP

I'd be more concerned about where the missing blades have ended up, any filings in your TMIC?

[syphe]

sorry haven't heard of anyone doing it in NZ, but i'm sure some of the users here could recommend a shop that could do this here.

[polyarkos]

 Rosssub said:

I'd be more concerned about where the missing blades have ended up, any filings in your TMIC?

Funny you should ask No big chunks or anything, but the intercooler and intake manifold is coated with oil and there seems to be some very fine filings in there too......

[polyarkos]

On that note does this mean my engine is a write-off? It wasn't making any noises before I lost power, just massive plumes of thick smoke. Managed to drive the car the short distance home.

[polyarkos]

So I've checked the AVCS and turbo feed banjo filters and they are clean as a whistle

[tebbyj]

These turbos dont like being pushed apparently. If i was you id go for option 2, upgraded unit that will give more tuning ability and be a direct swap. Plus gives you the peace of mind that its going to last. Just my 2c.

[Rosssub]

 polyarkos said:

Funny you should ask No big chunks or anything, but the intercooler and intake manifold is coated with oil and there seems to be some very fine filings in there too......

Those fine filings will be through everything, not a right off at all but it might not last as long as it could have. Definitely drop the oil and filter out, maybe even clean out the manifold when doing the TMIC and pipework?

[polyarkos]

 Rosssub said:

Those fine filings will be through everything, not a right off at all but it might not last as long as it could have. Definitely drop the oil and filter out, maybe even clean out the manifold when doing the TMIC and pipework?

Had a closer look with a very bright torch and the filings are not in the intake manifold (its removed from the engine), most of the filings are before the turbo in the intake hose.

I will clean everything that I can and will definitely do the oil and filter (turbo bearings look ok, the nut holding the front impeller had come loose).

[polyarkos]

 tebbyj said:

These turbos dont like being pushed apparently. If i was you id go for option 2, upgraded unit that will give more tuning ability and be a direct swap. Plus gives you the peace of mind that its going to last. Just my 2c.

Just waiting on Kinugawa to confirm this turbo will suit the Auto. It states direct replacement for the VF38 which is the Auto turbo, however the Kinugawa TD04HLA-19T has the same designation as the turbo found in the Manuals.

[Rosssub]

 polyarkos said:

Had a closer look with a very bright torch and the filings are not in the intake manifold (its removed from the engine), most of the filings are before the turbo in the intake hose.

I will clean everything that I can and will definitely do the oil and filter (turbo bearings look ok, the nut holding the front impeller had come loose).

That doesn't sound so bad. Got any pics of the dead turbo? Did the manual not get the VF38?

[polyarkos]

I've got some pics, will post soon. Turbo is disassembled.

Manuals got a TD04HLA-19T (190kw vs 205KW for the manual)

[Guest]

Steve murch recores these has done for years just need a vf donor.