HARNESSES IN STANDARD CAR

[Guest STiEVO]

hey guys as i am getting into trackdays i was hoping to fit some harnesses .is this possible first of all(no cage) and can it be done legitamently (legally ) im guessing at the least id need a cert but do i need to join a msnz affiliated club. cheers

[Guest Fastfour]

Koro I had a harness in Flic before it being caged. You just cant use it on the road. Use the seatbelt on the road, and harness on the track. Get one that simply clips in and out for track use.

Ricky might have something for ya, or trademe. And you will just need to pick up some eye bolts.

[Guest STiEVO]

do i remove the rear seats and do they (harnesses)have to be removed when not on track . cheers btw i will pm ricky on other site . can i retain the factory seats for now while using harnesses.?

[Guest Fastfour]

Yep, you most certainly can retain the factory seats. I kept my back seats in too. Go and have a look at Craig (NZtintin) car as he has just bought a basic harness for trackdays.

You would want to remove them when you arent at a track day as they would just get in the way. But thats as simple as unclipping them

[Munkvy]

You can have a 4+ point harness in a car thats used on the road, however you need to have a MSNZ Authority Card to do so.

To get the Authority Card you need to be a member of a MSNZ Affiliated Car Club and hold a Clubsport or higher MSNZ license. Then you can apply for the Authority Card and you will need to get an A grade scrutineer to examine your install to make sure its all ok. So its $30-60 Club membership, $65 Clubsport license and from memory $60 for the Authority Card. And 5mins getting it examined.

However a 5-6 point is a pain to get in and out of in a road car. So much easier to just swap them over when you go to the track.

[nztintin]

bro cruise round to my pad one day, the harness is in the car at the moment (cause it aint going anywhere) i can hook you up with one eye bolt that i aquired through a dodgy dealing i got my harness off trade me, just clips in and out, max 5 min job to install includeing pulling out my rear seat.

[Joker]

I left mine in for that proper boyracer look

and they weren't as bad on ya back as I had imagined

probably not good for the seats either...

but basic answer is no - not as a permanent fixture in a road car (without accompanying certificate/cage as outlined above)

you must use the OEM Incident restraint (seatbelt)

[Jammasta]

The removable harnesses are really good, leave ya eyebolts in and just clip in and out when you need to use it.

Just got to remember to turn the stereo off before strapping yourself in.

[Munkvy]

 JoKer said:

I left mine in for that proper boyracer look

and they weren't as bad on ya back as I had imagined

probably not good for the seats either...

but basic answer is no - not as a permanent fixture in a road car (without accompanying certificate/cage as outlined above)

you must use the OEM Incident restraint (seatbelt)

No need for a cage... Can use harness with either factory or aftermarket seat too.

[Guest STiEVO]

surely i cant get a set of harnesses and some eye bolts and install them with out getting scrutinised and/or certed. :-\ if thats the case how does one know how and where one would mount the bolts inparticular.

[Guest STiEVO]

 Fastfour said:

Koro I had a harness in Flic before it being caged. You just cant use it on the road. Use the seatbelt on the road, and harness on the track. Get one that simply clips in and out for track use.

Ricky might have something for ya, or trademe. And you will just need to pick up some eye bolts.

main reason as to why they cant be used when not on track or msnz event.

[Guest Fastfour]

 STiEVO said:

surely i cant get a set of harnesses and some eye bolts and install them with out getting scrutinised and/or certed. :-\ if thats the case how does one know how and where one would mount the bolts inparticular.

The bolts go into factory positions. One replaces the seat base rear bolt on the tunnel and the other replaces where the seatbelt bolts into the bottom of the B pillar. Then underneath the rear seat they go into where the back seat bolts into, and one of the seatbelt spots

And when you go to events they do check your belts are up to spec

[funkytown]

want me to take some pics jase / STIEVO.. I got jase old 4 point and picture paints a thousand words.

Mine uses all OEM bolt holes and has normal seatbelt for road and harness for track