A great read for those doing a suspension package --> coilover/springs/sturts

[funkytown]

Not smart to replicate the information here..

so here is a link.. its rather comprehensive..

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=911257

[Guest]

Yea, I think alot of guys will benefit from that.

Now if only I could get you to read the Swaybar FAQ funkytown

[funkytown]

 stance said:

Yea, I think alot of guys will benefit from that.

Now if only I could get you to read the Swaybar FAQ funkytown

explain..?

[Guest]

..haha just how you preach bigger rear swaybar than front is best for Subaru's and I'm always saying bigger front than rear and the FAQ on NASIOC is on my side ;D.

[funkytown]

 stance said:

..haha just how you preach bigger rear swaybar than front is best for Subaru's and I'm always saying bigger front than rear and the FAQ on NASIOC is on my side ;D.

fair enough, do some more reading and you'l find plenty of other reading saying that on a factory strut set up that a bigger rear bar in almost every case is recommended.

Im more than happy to accept of reasonably modified or "race" setups that a larger front can work as recommended by some susp tuners.

What i can tell you from personal experience having a much larger bar in the rear of mine has netted betterbest results in my car / setup

your welcome to poke the fire all you like - and i welcome it, but you should read a little wider yourself before using ONE example to back your point.

[Guest]

Hey I ain't taking a dig, its only an opinion. Everyone likes their car setup different. Your right though, the point of a larger bar up front is to retain as much dynamic camber as possible and if you don't have any camber to start with (like on a street setup) it's pointless.

[Guest keltik]

Ill take a dig, funnky - your car is a sledge...mines a drift machine. Now everybody go out and buy some buggered bilsteins

[funkytown]

 keltik said:

Ill take a dig, funnky - your car is a sledge...mines a drift machine. Now everybody go out and buy some buggered bilsteins

and yet mine still goes round the track faster.. ??? sledge or not

[Shale]

Funny, adding a bigger swaybar in the rear made my car stop understeering.

That's the way Whiteline tell ya to do it too

But it's all matter of opinion, personal preference and vehicle preference at the end of the day anyway

(Though srsly, NASIOC... what would the yanks know about handling? The only corners they know of are a gentle slope to one side, round and round in circles... ) I jest I jest

[Guest]

Yea, I don't disagree with you guys that a big rear bar will cut out understeer and therefore make the car more neutral.

But, a larger bar up front is like taking 3 steps forward in terms of overall grip and 1 step backward in that the cars balance at the limit will be more toward understeer.

Have a read around a little more and you will see this opinion is shared with ALOT of people, people with far more experience in cars/motorsport than any of us will ever have.

Thats what I did anyway, then I tried it out for myself and would rather run without my rear sway than my front.

[Guest]

I agree bigger front ARB is a step forward

[Guest]

This is awesome guys...THANK YOU ALL!!!! Just purchased a Whiteline 22mm rear bar and composite links (I'm jumping up from 14mm!!) so this is good. I have had many different opinions expressed to me too...only do the rear,have the front the same as the rear etc etc so anything more you guys want to share would be cool 8) Will tell yas how she feels when the 22mm turns up and is fitted. Oh,and Shale,she sounds good with the rage muffler on,pretty quiet until under gas though...

[Guest]

I have upgraded the rear arb in three subarus - all three improved with the addition of bigger front arb

[WRXER]

+1 with Qwerty, I have netted the same results. But now I will be doing more tweaking once I get my car back onto the track.

[Shale]

What's the stock size up front, generally speaking? STi is how much bigger than non-STi?

When I go for a yet-bigger rear, I want the front to go with it. At this stage it's just an uprated rear... but after yesterday's rainy, greasy weather I'd like a little more grip

[Guest]

^ IIRC, both the WRX and STi (GC) come with a 19mm front.

[Guest]

 Shale said:

What's the stock size up front, generally speaking? STi is how much bigger than non-STi?

When I go for a yet-bigger rear, I want the front to go with it. At this stage it's just an uprated rear... but after yesterday's rainy, greasy weather I'd like a little more grip

its common in track etc competition to run no ARB's in the wet - AFAIK

In the wet you have less grip - so naturally your car has less roll - so you don't need stiffer ARB's

[funkytown]

 Qwerty']

[quote name='Shale said:

What's the stock size up front, generally speaking? STi is how much bigger than non-STi?

When I go for a yet-bigger rear, I want the front to go with it. At this stage it's just an uprated rear... but after yesterday's rainy, greasy weather I'd like a little more grip

/quote]

its common in track etc competition to run no ARB's in the wet - AFAIK

+1

[Shale]

That makes so much sense it hurts.

[Guest keltik]

I plan on modifying some 2.5inch scaffolding pole for a front ARB. Then ill corner like the V8 Supercars