BPE 5EAT tipronic box fault

[funkytown]

hey all,

will be talking to the actual subaru folk in due course as well but wondered if anyone here has come across this before.

the 5EAT - i do know sometimes they dont stift nicely from 1->2 or 2->3 when cold, or up a slight incline and has never been resolved. seen it across half a dozen examples.

Worse than that (actual fault), has happened twice now, when cold:

the ABS, and traction control light come on and stay on, the \'sport\' light flashes. when it does this:

* i cant activate the tiptronic mode

* Cruise control wont work

* box holds 1st or 2nd gear and wont shift properly. = revs its nuts off

There doesn\'t seem to be a change in power delivery but i assume its the TCU going into limp mode turning the car off and turning it back on seems to return to normal but surely something is up and i shouldn\'t ignore it.

other info: Box has done 140,000kms from 80->140 i have done a reasonable amount of towing, admitedly no trans cooler fitted. BPE = 3.0 EZ30 donkey. I do like tip mode and use it quite a bit espec when towing and for engine braking. Wifey drives it like a nana.

thoguhts? people who\'ve had this? resourses youve found online?

Assume as the BP/BL get older this may happen to other people so im keen n to have a resolution to said thread for future use.

[funkytown]

think we have a winner here -

seems i am replicating a lot of what this thread is talking about. speed sensor failures it seems.

http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/sport-light-blinking-84513p2.html?highlight=5eat+malfunction

[DacerX]

Never had that issue and mines at 250k

[Subirex Automotive]

had those issues before. normally when the valve body is not functioning properly or fault in trans harness.

if heavy towing is done than check trans fluid and filter ( located behind the battery).

if the problem is intermittent than check the trans harness connector ( could be loose). apply some contact grease.

did you get it scanned yet?

if you did than whats the code.

i have complete repair procedures for Subaru.

i can email you the repair procedure if you want. just pm me.

[funkytown]

thanks sorry i just saw this, Car has been up with ichiban to fix, hes on to it and knows the proceedures etc.

turns out was related to either valve body or the front speed sensor (see attached pic for front and rear speed sensor readings).

cant get the speed senor replacement at any reasonable cost so cheapest option is a new box.

the number starts with $2xxx. F U car. to remove, trace to the sensor, find a way to fix it and reinstall the full box was going to end up easily as much $ wise.

Found an identical box with on 70,000 on it. should have it back next week some time.

[DacerX]

holy crap on a cracker

[funkytown]

yer bro, stale biscuit in your mouth kind of holy crap.

its a FUCKING SHIT design frankly. The 4AT runs external sensors which you can replace easily, the 5AT are all in the box #makesshitepiclyexpensive

[DacerX]

 funkytown said:

yer bro, stale biscuit in your mouth kind of holy crap.

its a botherING s*** design frankly. The 4AT runs external sensors which you can replace easily, the 5AT are all in the box #makess***epiclyexpensive

But you cant deny its a dam some box.

[Subirex Automotive]

i have a spare box with me. can salvage parts you need. the front speed sensor is located inside the rear of the gearbox, dont need to remove the whole trans for that, just the rear housing. the rear speed sensor is external.

let me know if you need any parts.

[funkytown]

damm have purchased a new box.

[Subirex Automotive]

oops all good. if you need any parts for bp than let me know.

[DacerX]

take it back? where did u purchase from?

[Drunkenmonkey]

Anything on these models is expensive like p/s pumps your in the 2k figure! I had that scare the other week!!

[ADIKT]

 funkytown said:

yer bro, stale biscuit in your mouth kind of holy crap.

its a botherING s*** design frankly. The 4AT runs external sensors which you can replace easily, the 5AT are all in the box #makess***epiclyexpensive

cheers for the info funky. I\'ve got this prob with my 4at. Although the shifts arnt bad when cold.

[DacerX]

 Drunkenmonkey said:

Anything on these models is expensive like p/s pumps your in the 2k figure! I had that scare the other week!!

why didnt you txt me i have a spare for an ez30r and also an alternator

[Drunkenmonkey]

 dacerx']

[quote name='Drunkenmonkey said:

Anything on these models is expensive like p/s pumps your in the 2k figure! I had that scare the other week!!

/quote]

why didnt you txt me i have a spare for an ez30r and also an alternator

Cause the pump was fine in the end was air getting into the pump

[DacerX]

 Drunkenmonkey']

[quote name='Drunkenmonkey said:

Anything on these models is expensive like p/s pumps your in the 2k figure! I had that scare the other week!!

/quote]

why didnt you txt me i have a spare for an ez30r and also an alternator

Cause the pump was fine in the end was air getting into the pump

oh well i have a spare

[Steveo]

If they are anything like the 2000 Legacy tiptronic boxes, once fixed sell it as they all seem to all have issues.

Flatmate had a RSK Legacy B4 that he brought private after 10,000km or so of ownership gearbox stuffed out similar issue sensor or valve body. Managed to track down a good 2nd hand one with a 3 month warrenty, 4 months later same issue happend. Ended up selling the car as is for like 3 grand in the end he was that sick of it (paid 12k for the car with around 80,000kms on it). Maybe the later boxes were better but doesn\'t sound very hopefull.

[funkytown]

have owned car from 80,000 -> 140,000 and its not had a single fault to date sans the box.

the new box is only a 70,000km box so i dont see any reason for it to give issues. no reason to sell just yet.