About to purchase..

[matt]

About a year ago I sold my asbolutely mint as NZ new 2001 GTB wagon ( House reno's ). Im now at the point where I can get back on the wagon as it were.. I've been shopping around for a while but now its crunch time - I'm cut up between getting a GTB 05 turbo leggy wagon or a rather decent 2004 3.0R version with rather low mileage.. both manual's.

Anyone got any comments on comparisons ? I've driven both and like both. Im attracted to the 3.0R for a number of reasons but most of them boring and responsible.. ( cam chain etc )

Anyone got any decent info on spec's / power output ?

Im also interested in deciphering the VIN plate 'model' types and subbie feature codes - anyone got a link handy ?? I've seen a few touted GTB's on the market that someone has merely placed a Bilstien badge on...

[matt]

Ah, Found the codes in the forum... thanks clubsub (!) you rock.

http://www.clubsub.org.nz/forum/index.php/topic,2050.0.html

[Drunkenmonkey]

 matt said:

Ah, Found the codes in the forum... thanks subclub clubsub you rock.

http://www.clubsub.org.nz/forum/index.php/topic,2050.0.html

both are brillent cars the 3.0R motors have proven to be a awesome performer as the NA goes.

i would be happy to settle for either one would come down to the best price milage deal you could get

[DacerX]

very true they are both good but i would lean towards 30r

[matt]

Soz.. clubsub!

Cheers monkey.

Wiki lists the 4th gen leggys with comparible stats, although i've nothing to compare this info against :

Models Type (code) Power, torque@rpm

2.0GT 2.0L H4 turbo (EJ20) 245 PS (180 kW; 242 hp)@6000, 320 N·m (240 lb·ft)@3200

3.0R 3,000 cc (3.0 L; 180 cu in) H6 (EZ30) 245 PS (180 kW; 242 hp)@6600, 297 N·m (219 lb·ft)@4200

[Drunkenmonkey]

no problem

[ODB]

whats the future of the vehicle likely to be?

family vehicle? Go 3.0R

personal item of modding desire? Go turbo

[DacerX]

why just slap a tur on ya 30r bro she will b mean yo

[B_Man]

The old man has an outback with the 3.0 engine, Fantastic performer, smooth engine, not to bad on gas either

[DacerX]

yeah and then u can say that vtec just kicked in yo haha

[gazzy2000]

we have a 2001 Legacy E-tune for sale, has had the Twin Turbo to Single Turbo conversion done, running a possum link ECU

http://www.clubsub.org.nz/forum/index.php/topic,17222.0.html

[GorGasmSpecB]

I have a 3.0R-B manual and an auto 2.0GTB.

The 3.0R is excellent. Performance is very good for a 3.0 and also reasonable on gas. The turbo has more mid range torque but probably not as much top end power in auto form.

It also sounds wicked with a bit of an exhaust on it.

I have had no issues with my 3.0 at all in 40k's of ownership.

In manual the 2.0 turbo will be faster than the 3.0 easily.

If not modifying the car past an exhaust/intake/tune then the 3.0 is easily the better choice for me. Fully recommend it.

If I was buying again I would get a GTB manual as I have already reached the limit of practical mods on my 3.0.

[GorGasmSpecB]

If the 3.0 is 6 speed then it will have Bilsteins and different wheels.

All GTB's should have Bilsteins, and also have the GTB bumper. Just check the shocks, they should be yellow.

Spec for 3.0R:

Maximum power 244.3 PS (241 bhp) (179.7 kW)@ 6600 rpm

Maximum torque 297.0 Nm (219 ft·lb) (30.3 kgm)@ 4200 rpm

Spec for GTB:

Maximum power

JIS 279.8 PS (276 bhp) (205.8 kW)@ 6400 rpm

Maximum torque

JIS 343.0 Nm (253 ft·lb) (35 kgm)@ 2400 rpm

brm brm:

[DacerX]

I would go 30r

[DRFVDR]

Another vote for the 3 litre

I have seen how Keltic thrashed the tits out of his

it got my vote then

Been looking at some myself

[ODB]

Stretch budget and get single turbo gtb??

[gazzy2000]

 ODB said:

Stretch budget and get single turbo gtb??

yip, buy mine ;D

[QRAF]

as i've got a family on the way i have been looking at the 3.0L

[gazzy2000]

 QRAF said:

as i've got a family on the way i have been looking at the 3.0L

nup, dont be foolish, buy mine ;D

[ODB]

i was talking about the newer shape leggy.

but yours is mean anyways Gaz!

[gazzy2000]

 ODB said:

i was talking about the newer shape leggy.

but yours is mean anyways Gaz!

aw man, stick it then LOL

here is a good priced leggy http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Subaru/auction-345123149.htm

[ODB]

yeah looks good.

seems like they are going for around $13-14 for an auto one.

How good do the autos perform?

Mrs seems to want an outback of this year next.

[DRFVDR]

Yeah we are also looking at this shape outback damn children

do like the second gen h6's

[B_Man]

 ODB said:

How good do the autos perform?

The Auto's arent to bad

[GorGasmSpecB]

The Auto's have nothing on the manuals performance wise. But as autos go they are fine.