Triptronic Gearboxs

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How strong are the later model triptonics, sequential gearboxes so expensive, can they be beefed and used like a sequential during racing and just slip it into D on warm down lap, Ideas and thoughts

[lachlan]

no .

also chances are leaving it in d would get faster lap times than what ever you think you are achieving by pushing buttons to shift

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you do realise later triptonics have the same attributes as sequential ie,leaver push forward for up shift and backwards for down shift,and no clutching needed so foot flat to the floor, thinking out of the box, I remember a Holden in the GT class running a auto box and he did fairly well.

Never say it cant be done, just do and find out

[boon]

If they're anything like the old autos then they can probably be beefed up, usually done for dragracing rather than track work though.

You can flat-shift with a Link, and clutchless up-shift if you're a bit of an animal and don't mind hurting gearboxes.

Better to just look for a cheap PPG gearset though, tbh.

[newsuba]

What boon said...

Tiptronics are just fancy named autos with a manual shift option.

[Andy_Mac]

http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/valve-body-mods-giant-leaps-forward-160101.html

Quite a few peeps in the states seem to go this route, not really clued up on auto's at all so not sure if this is the kind of thing transmission specialists in nz would do.

[lachlan]

ok so you push the lever instead of pushing a button .

you do realise the auto still has the attributes of a slosh box trimatic . and is nothing like a sequential box at all

also the fact that all the autos retard timing ( or other measures ) in the ecu to soften the power during a shift

[ADIKT]

What about a stm ghost shifter? Customize it work subaru

Edited March 17, 2015 by ADIKT
God damn auto correct

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 ADIKT said:

What about a stm ghost shifter? Customize it work subaru

Waiting for them to get back to me, $1395 not sure if it EVO or Subaru

[boon]

The ghost shifter won't do ****. It's for no-hands ECU shifting a drag car. It uses the Ikeya "sequential" conversion (which costs a ****-ton) on the gearstick to convert the H-pattern to a sequential style.

You can achieve exactly the same thing with a Link G4 (or any decent ECU) and shifting it by hand, you just have to hate your gearbox a bit. You still need the clutch on downshifts.

I believe most of the cars that got a ghost shifter already had dog-cut gearboxes anyway.

EDIT: Literally, all the ghost shifter does is give you air-actuated shifting on the Ikeya shifter. That's it. Nothing else. That's why it's called the ghost shifter, because the shifter still moves around as if someone was using it.

[ADIKT]

Thanks for info boon. Good to know.

[Guest]

I priced up a kaps system through a nz dealer, basically the dog box cost 8-9k plus 650 dollars to fit it and then the sequential add on equipment is another 6k ish. Basically for the price pbms is charging for a dog box conversion you get a sequential system. Not cheap though but a lot less than the 30k I have seen them for sale for.

[boon]

Honestly I'd just get a set of PPG dog gears for maybe 1-3 or 1-4 and live with that. Is H-pattern shifting really that hard?

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 boon said:

Honestly I'd just get a set of PPG dog gears for maybe 1-3 or 1-4 and live with that. Is H-pattern shifting really that hard?

its what I am probably going to do, but if you were really serious sequential does save a lot of time on the track. In fact the super lap person told me he saved 2-3 seconds a lap at puke by only changing from dogbox to sequential.

[loner]

 ballsrburning said:

its what I am probably going to do, but if you were really serious sequential does save a lot of time on the track. In fact the super lap person told me he saved 2-3 seconds a lap at puke by only changing from dogbox to sequential.

I would say that too if I'd just spent $$$ on it.

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 loner said:

I would say that too if I'd just spent $$$ on it.

didn't cost him a penny he's a well known driver who got it for free through sponsorship. However the times speak for themselves.

Edited March 19, 2015 by ballsrburning

[lachlan]

he must be one unco mofo. half of a h pattern is the same action as a squential anyway . up and down shifting 1-2 and 3-4 is still forward and back . i really dont see how having to pull the stick on a diagonal for 2-3 shift can cost 2-3 seconds a lap .

i mean has anyone watched the darrin 6 second supra on the street . thats fkn cool for h pattern

[loner]

yep. 2 - 3 seconds is a massive gain... I know people that have added 100 hp and not gained that over one lap.

[boon]

 ballsrburning said:

didn't cost him a penny he's a well known driver who got it for free through sponsorship. However the times speak for themselves.

Then he's probably obliged by the sponsor to pimp their gear

I'm pretty dubious of someone gaining 2-3 seconds from a sequential, unless they were a terrrrrrible shifter before.