TT BG5B with V2 Closed Deck Swap.

[GTJamie]

G'day and thanks for your time, I have a 97' BG5B factory manual GT-B with a EJ20R that has bent valves as a result of one of the plastic cam gears exploding (and smashing the cambelt cover into 1000 pieces) and have decided to buy a V2 STi Closed Deck EJ20G-DW5HJ, and install it but retain the sequential TT system instead of going single turbo. I've always had legacy's and love the drivability of the TT. I'm thinking about doing the exhaust and swapping to VF33 & VF32 turbos of a BE5D.

Just wondering If anybody would like to chime in with any tips or advice?

[Leufkax]

Passenger side head would have to be modified to feed the primary turbo, and the compression ratios are different so you'll get a lot of knock. Not an ideal engine for the application

[GTJamie]

So do you think I should keep it simple and go single turbo?

[Dairusire]

 GTJamie said:

So do you think I should keep it simple and go single turbo?

it'll transform the car, so up to you really. Twin turbo's are cool, but they cost a fair old bit to modify and keep twin.

[Joker]

 Leufkax said:

Passenger side head would have to be modified to feed the primary turbo, and the compression ratios are different so you'll get a lot of knock. Not an ideal engine for the application

or keep the heads? / full rebuild hah (yea right

[Rosssub]

 Leufkax said:

Passenger side head would have to be modified to feed the primary turbo, and the compression ratios are different so you'll get a lot of knock. Not an ideal engine for the application

Compression ratio would be identical:

[GTJamie]

 Rosssub said:

Compression ratio would be identical:

Thanks Rosssub, after some more thinking I've decided to use the CDB 20G and EJ20R heads and run sequential twin turbo as the CR will be identical like you said (20G and 20R both being 46cc) with copper head gaskets, which should be a good combo. the only thing I'm concerned about is the crank sensor trigger being different on the 20G block than what the 20R ECU will expect. Being a phase 1 block I'm sure it will either be plug'n'play or I'll be able to retrofit the 20R sensor/trigger combo to the 20G.

Hopefully its this simple..

[Guest]

Crank trigger wheel and sensor will be the same.

[GTJamie]

Thanks, evowrx. All going well then this should make for an easy build. This will be my first hybrid build so it will be interesting to see what state this wagon ends up in.

[GTJamie]

So yesterday I went to go and view what I thought was the V2 EJ20G, to find that it is actually a V3 EJ20K.

So I asked how much for the 20K, and my mate said he'd take 4-500 for it. Then after much deliberation I asked how much for the VF23, headers, up pipe, loom, ECU.. So he says I can have all that for an extra $150. So I decided to give him 500 for the engine and 150 for the turbo and all that extra gear. Now I've spend $650 on the full V3 setup and my GT-B cost me $270 in the end. I'm excited that I'll be able to build a STi GT-B for under $1000.

I won't post here again until the 20K is in the BG. Next time I post an update it will most likely be running!

Pics to follow!

[Guest]

Oh c'mon post up pics of the in between...sounds promising.

[GTJamie]

Apparently my pictures are too large. I'll make a Dropbox or something so you guys can check it out.

[GTJamie]

So my EJ20K is in my mates BG5 with his brand new Excedy HD clutch, which we are putting into his new GC8. Then I'll be left with my motor teetering in the BG, we are gonna reverse the GC8 up to the front of the BG and drop the 20K into the boot of the GC8, then go and drop the 20K off at my house to go into my BG, then the next job will be pulling out my 20R, doing a few wiring tricks and finding the last few bits I need, put my 20R clutch on the 20K and then I'll be away laughing. Too bad we have to split 3 boxes, lift 2 engines in our backyards!

[Joker]

 GTJamie said:

Apparently my pictures are too large. I'll make a Dropbox or something so you guys can check it out.

forum cannot host your image you need to post it to you facebook wall or imgur or Photobucket and the likes & link back to it etc

[GTJamie]

Okay so s**t has really hit the fan. Split the STI box off the 20K, put the clutch into my "mates" WRX, slapped it back together for him. Then less than a day later they smash up my BG 😢 and are withholding the EJ20K that I own 63% of. They also stole all of my spare parts and stole parts directly out of my house, room and engine bay.

 

Stolen items include: 2x orange AFM's, 2 toolboxes and a socket set of mine, one toolbox that belongs to my mate, VF13, VF19 & VF23 (I paid cash for the VF23)

 

http://s32.photobucket.com/user/Jamie_BiNg_Mutler/library/BG5 Damage

[SpeedySub]

A bit confused. Did the people you brought the motor of steal it back and trash your car?

[GTJamie]

3 hours ago, SpeedySub said:

A bit confused. Did the people you brought the motor of steal it back and trash your car?

 

Yes, I did a lot of labour for them and paid them a bit of cash as we had agreed, the owner of the 20K I was buying and the WRX I was working on, was friends with my flatmates son. My flatmate let them into my house, to get my car key, where they trashed my car and stole not only the parts I had brought off them for cash, but also the spare parts I got with my legacy when I brought it. They stole a turbo, two toolboxes, clothes, my passport, and an orange airflow metre from my bedroom because my flatmate gave them both my room key and car key. They also attempted car conversion by trying to sell my poor legacy to one of my mates who works at a local wrecker.

 

Project V3BG is going to be on the backburner for at least the next 8 weeks due to the financial restraints that come along with paying for an engine and not receiving it. Hopefully the disputes tribunal goes well.

 

however, if anybody knows of any V3/V4 20k or 20R engines laying dormant, please let me know because I'm desperate to get this done.