Some GT vs GTB questions (new shape)

[lunchie]

Hey guys I have a couple question about the new shape 2003-2008 legacy

Not thinking about buying, just trying to up skill the knowledge base.

(NZ new I am asking about here)

What are the differences between the Pre-facelift and the facelift models?

What are the differences between the GT and GTB shape.

From the Facelift and Pre facelift are there any differences between the GT and GTB shape.

Does the McIntosh stereo in either GT or GTB play Mp3 cd's or have an AUX 3.5mm input?

What are the 5 speed trans like in the Pre facelift for handling the 206kw of power?, I seem to remember that the old 5 speeds in impreza's could be weak and someone told me (probably incorrectly) that subaru has basically not changed their 5 speeds in forever.

How quick are they in factory spec

0-100

1/4mile

Top speed

Fuel usage.

I have used the search function but it didnt come up with much

[GC8E2DD]

Not stickied, so hard to find maybe ...

http://www.clubsub.org.nz/forum/index.php/topic,9604.0.html

Now stickied, so easier to find !!!

That is the specs for the pre facelift NZ New BP/BL Legacies from the manual. Autocar clocked one at 5.4 seconds to 100km/hr. You can get anywhere between 8 and 12 litres per 100kms with general driving. The Macintosh stereo doesn't play MP3s, and doesn't have an aux jack although apparently you can get kits to add one. The difference between GT and GTB are things like 18" wheels, leather heated and powered seats, a different front bumper cover (lower lip shape and spots are different), the stereo, and maybe a few other things that escape me right now. There are quite a few other members with these cars who can probably tell you more.

[lunchie]

What are the transmissions like

1/4mile time?

[Joker]

i'm sorry but LOL 400m time.... from a Legacy? or any car is really pointless (none the less important to some as I am led to believe)

[Guest]

No fluffing around here, just get the GT B-Spec. iv'e driven both and the B-Spec won outright, better suspension, better interior (if you the mckintosh stereo) looks nicer and those 18's are pretty sweet.

[lunchie]

 JoKer said:

i'm sorry but LOL 400m time.... from a Legacy? or any car is really pointless (none the less important to some as I am led to believe)

fair enough, does anyone know the 80-120 time. TED

[Guest boostin]

The 5 speed auto is pretty sweet. If I was buying a BL/BP I would get the auto.

The facelift can have an AUX jack fitted in the centre console to plug your ipod etc into.

I've been with Wingers for over 4 years, and never replaced one of those manual boxes. They seem much better than the old WRX / Legacy boxes.

[lunchie]

 boostin said:

The 5 speed auto is pretty sweet. If I was buying a BL/BP I would get the auto.

The facelift can have an AUX jack fitted in the centre console to plug your ipod etc into.

I've been with Wingers for over 4 years, and never replaced one of those manual boxes. They seem much better than the old WRX / Legacy boxes.

Can have?, can u expand on that. Cost etc?

[Guest boostin]

There is a socket on the rear of the head unit, and a spare panel in the console box. So not factory fitted, but can be retrofitted. Kits are available from Subaru. No idea of cost sorry, I just fit the damn things.

[99GTB]

The newer ones can come with a 6 speed ~2006/7 on.

[lunchie]

 99GTB said:

The newer ones can come with a 6 speed ~2006/7 on.

yeah I know ay, im guessing its a carbon copy of the STI 6speed but with slightly different ratios? Pretty much indestructable.

Hey just FYI what does it cost to replace a clutch in one of those 6 speed sti's/legacy

[ReubenH]

 lunchie']

[quote name='JoKer said:

i'm sorry but LOL 400m time.... from a Legacy? or any car is really pointless (none the less important to some as I am led to believe)

/quote]

fair enough, does anyone know the 80-120 time. TED

Silly. Just drive one and see how it goes.

[funkytown]

 99GTB said:

The newer ones can come with a 6 speed ~2006/7 on.

2004 onwards in the H6's

[GC8E2DD]

 lunchie said:

the STI 6speed ... Pretty much indestructable.

Tell that to Fastfour

[lunchie]

ok now this is really weird, I contacted a couple ppl I know in the industry and a random on trade me and they reckon that their GT's have aux imputs for mp3 players.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Subaru/Legacy/auction-291092013.htm

this one claims for sure that it does.

Anyone have experience in this area?

reckens its in the center console between the front seats

[GC8E2DD]

That is a facelift.

 "boostin"']

the facelift can have an AUX jack fitted in the centre console to plug your ipod etc into.

[quote name='"boostin" said:

not factory fitted, but can be retrofitted

[lunchie]

 GC8E2DD']

That is a facelift.

the facelift can have an AUX jack fitted in the centre console to plug your ipod etc into.

[quote name='"boostin" said:

not factory fitted, but can be retrofitted/quote]

so is it subaru fitted or aftermarket?

[GC8E2DD]

boostin can fit one for you at Winger. Do you consider that Subaru fitted?

 "boostin"']not factory fitted

[quote name='"boostin" said:

can be retrofitted

[lunchie]

 GC8E2DD']

boostin can fit one for you at Winger. Do you consider that Subaru fitted?

not factory fitted

[quote name='"boostin" said:

can be retrofitted/quote]

oh ok so thats what has been done to the car in question.

What do they cost to fit?

[funkytown]

boostin - can this only be fitted to the facelift models?

[GC8E2DD]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Car-parts-accessories/Subaru/Accessories/auction-290522360.htm

$280 + (boostin's rate * boostin's time) + Winger overheads + GST

... or $280 if you do it yourself.

[GorGasmSpecB]

I read somewhere that 06+ has factory aux in in the centre console.

[lunchie]

 GorGasmSpecB said:

I read somewhere that 06+ has factory aux in in the centre console.

http://reviews.cnet.com/sedan/2006-subaru-legacy-2/4505-10865_7-31510999.html

http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2006/11/26/029828.html

[Guest boostin]

 funkytown']

boostin - can this only be fitted to the facelift models?

Yes.

[quote name='GorGasmSpecB said:

I read somewhere that 06+ has factory aux in in the centre console.

Late 06 = MY07 = facelift = optional aux port in centre console box.

[lunchie]

 GC8E2DD said:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Car-parts-accessories/Subaru/Accessories/auction-290522360.htm

$280 + (boostin's rate * boostin's time) + Winger overheads + GST

... or $280 if you do it yourself.

So im guessing this can be fitted to any of the New shape legacy's that have the McIntosh system. If so are there any draw backs? Like would it still output to all 13 speaks and not fcuk with the amp or sounds distribution?

I just seem to remember a rewiring thread in here saying that if u made certain changes to a McIntosh system it would disable the Amp although that may have been only in a situation where u were replacing the whole head unit.

Also can anyone comment on the Mcintosh systems.

Im guessing they sound pretty wicked?