*Bearings* Anyone used these...

[subaru-mania]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Car-parts-accessories/Subaru/Engines/auction-347644199.htm Anyone use these before? If there any good ill grab a set for my rebuild Cheers

[Stoffa]

Not a foz was using NDC bearings in his car, STA sell them and my engine builder says they are good, biggest manufacturer of factory bearings and pretty much anything built in japan uses them

only $120ish from STA

[Guest]

I looked at them when building my engine but went with ACL

I wish I had not now :'(

[rex-leggy]

wats wrong with acl ?

im sure they've been proven to be satisfactory

[Guest]

 rex-leggy said:

wats wrong with acl ?

im sure they've been proven to be satisfactory

:-X :-X

[Koom]

 rex-leggy said:

wats wrong with acl ?

im sure they've been proven to be satisfactory

Have not heard of anyone else having issues with ACL anymore than any other brand of bearing as 9 times out of 10 it's not the bearing itself that has caused the failure. All depends on the installer and triple checking everything plus the tune.

[Stoffa]

ACL are fine, people use them all over the world they even used to make bearings for Cosworth, I agree with Koom

[subaru-mania]

Think some *people* are taking this some what personal... all I was asking is if anyone has used King bearing b4, as I thought i would give another brand a try, As for ACL bearings They are good quality and I Havent heard of anything negative Feedback towards this product.. And many re-builders use these..

[Guest]

King brgs are awesome !! - they have a thicker "soft" top metal layer bearing surface

ACL, esp race brgs are very hard on

Agreed most failures are due to either det or oil overheating not the bearings

[subaru-mania]

 Ichi Ban said:

King brgs are awesome !! - they have a thicker "soft" top metal layer bearing surface

ACL, esp race brgs are very hard on

Agreed most failures are due to either det or oil overheating not the bearings

Cheers bro , think ill go for the kings bearings

[Guest]

Make sure you wash King bearings well in solvent, they are NOT washed after machining at factory

[subaru-mania]

 Ichi Ban said:

Make sure you wash King bearings well in solvent, they are NOT washed after machining at factory

lucky yu said this... whats best to wash em with petrol?

[Guest]

ALL engine parts must be throughly cleaned, not just the bearings

Petrol is a gr8 cleaner but also quite dangerous too

I use brakleen, rags (lint free) and compressed air

[subaru-mania]

Yep, Just never relly thought to clean the bearings ooops And yeah i normally use petrol + the compressor

[Guest]

 subaru-mania said:

Yep, Just never relly thought to clean the bearings ooops And yeah i normally use petrol + the compressor

Petrol and comp air = really f'n damgerous dude !!

All bearings should be clean and esp dry on assembly!! it helps with heat transfer to the rod when running

[subaru-mania]

 Ichi Ban']

[quote name='subaru-mania said:

Yep, Just never relly thought to clean the bearings ooops And yeah i normally use petrol + the compressor

/quote]

Petrol and comp air = really f'n damgerous dude !!

All bearings should be clean and esp dry on assembly!! it helps with heat transfer to the rod when running

would of thought most solvents wold be just as harmful??

[Guest]

Petrol, most guys pour it into a wash bowl and have a couple of litres just sitting there- vapour coming off all the time

Brakleen, yes lots more expensive (I use around 8 cans per engine build) but lots safer

[Guest vf20/21bg5]

 Ichi Ban said:

ALL engine parts must be throughly cleaned, not just the bearings

Petrol is a gr8 cleaner but also quite dangerous too

I use brakleen, rags (lint free) and compressed air

yep brakecleaner is gr8 for cleaning oilbased things, just make sure to wipe it befor it drys and after it drys.

[Ryan]

 Ichi Ban said:

Petrol, most guys pour it into a wash bowl and have a couple of litres just sitting there- vapour coming off all the time

Brakleen, yes lots more expensive (I use around 8 cans per engine build) but lots safer

Ichi, have you heard of the industrial solvent called Zapp Wash? It's basically brake clean but renamed and alot cheaper, Marketing Chemicals distribute it. 20L, 60L or 205L containers, we use sh!tloads of it at work great stuff.

[Guest]

 Ryan']

[quote name='Ichi Ban said:

Petrol, most guys pour it into a wash bowl and have a couple of litres just sitting there- vapour coming off all the time

Brakleen, yes lots more expensive (I use around 8 cans per engine build) but lots safer

/quote]

Ichi, have you heard of the industrial solvent called Zapp Wash? It's basically brake clean but renamed and alot cheaper, Marketing Chemicals distribute it. 20L, 60L or 205L containers, we use sh!tloads of it at work great stuff.

Nah never heard of it will investigate, Cheers Bro

[Ryan]

http://marketingchemicals.co.nz/zapp.html

[D-Style]

ACL bearings when bust (well recievership) last year. Some of there bearings are starting to get very hard to get.

Brakleen is good. The best thing as it doesnt eat plastics like alot of the other cheap brands do. Wurth brake clean is good aswell.

[Ryan]

 D-Style said:

Wurth brake clean is good aswell.

With a price to match!

[D-Style]

 Ryan']

[quote name='D-Style said:

Wurth brake clean is good aswell.

/quote]

With a price to match!

Its Wurth it thou...

[log1call]

 Ichi Ban said:

King brgs are awesome !! - they have a thicker "soft" top metal layer bearing surface

ACL, esp race brgs are very hard on

Agreed most failures are due to either det or oil overheating not the bearings

Isn't it better to have thin bearing material on the steel backing though?

Thick layers of "whitemetal", can and do squeeze out under pressure... which was a major disadvantage of the old poured bearings.

It used to be that race/high performance bearings had thinner than usual "whitemetal".

Perhaps things have changed since I was a young fellah?