Straight Bolt On Turbos

[sultan]

yeah man. keen to see if it keeps up with my new setup ;P

[vorigan]

yes but your td05/6's are a bit different in both performance and cost to a std td05 or chinese td06. i know you can't keep up with demand, but i hope you find the time to do my one for capper. i'll be sending you a donor soon!

This is where issues come from bad reps come from bad products but i will say i only have issues from how others interprit things in nz yet anything i send overseas that doesnt happen, as i said many times its the nz tall poppy syndrome.

I do units for some very top line people around the planet and yet that makes no odds to people here,when you watch movies like the worlds fastest indian you can even see it happening back then guess things havent changed.

[sultan]

don't be such a pesimist lol. there's always going to be people who would rather spend 300 bucks on a turbo that "goes hard bro" than lay down a proper outlay and get something that works and lasts. do these people cause detriment to those who believe in quality products and are willing to pay for them? i don't think so, you said so yourself how busy you are.

[Stoffa]

Sounds like steve need a group hug, and maybe some people shouting from the roof tops...

I LOVE STEVE MURCH'S TURBO'S!!!

[Pappu1]

 Stoffa said:

Sounds like steve need a group hug, and maybe some people shouting from the roof tops...

I LOVE STEVE MURCH'S TURBO'S!!!

+1

my old v2 wrx had one of the special td05/06 hybrid jobbies..

hmm was good !!!

[vorigan]

 Stoffa said:

Sounds like steve need a group hug, and maybe some people shouting from the roof tops...

I LOVE STEVE MURCH'S TURBO'S!!!

Now how the hell am i meant to answer that?

Thanks but im wasnt after an ego boost just getting sick of the crap i read and the funky replies of uneducated drop kicks that only have a life behind a pc trying to bad name people in the industry for their own short falls in life.

Apart from that its all good but i have to say i love reading the power figures people quote from turbos that is impossiable to do when i have all the ihi factory maps ,but its somewhat disapointing and very misleading for those who go "awesume bro" then wonder why it doesnt happen.

Still i guess thats the net forums for you but would love to see these keyboard pros open a shop and show us all hows its done,gez i wonder why they dont.. :

Thus why i dont bother helpng on forums anymore was never after work just trying to help to which no one does these days without putting their hand out.

[Pappu1]

hey steve - since you have the maps for the vf turbos

- wud u know if hitting 22psi between 4-5krpm and then dropping steadly to 15.4psi from 5krpm thru to 7krpm - is that within capacity of a vf22?

thats on a 2litre sti engine with supporting mods done

lol cant afford another one of your td05/06 at the mo :'( hence thinking of mapping that as my boost curve

[funkytown]

nice steve, i havent commented once in this marvelous thread.

seems your just as mis informed about my life as you believe i am about your turbos - bar one minor detail. I've had experience on one of your turbos, you sir haven't crossed my path irl.

[vorigan]

 funkytown said:

nice steve, i havent commented once in this marvelous thread.

seems your just as mis informed about my life as you believe i am about your turbos - bar one minor detail. I've had experience on one of your turbos, you sir haven't crossed my path irl.

you got one of my turbos to the spec you wanted then spent around 10k to get more power then bagged my turbo for not doing a job that it wasnt never meant to do in the first place so unless you delete the posts you bagged me in dont be a hypocrite.

[funkytown]

ive not mentioned anything in here, please read my post above more carefully. nor have i talked to you for ages. as if stands I have a stack of pm's and plots that say exactly what i did before you left so i'm comfortable with the conclusions ive reached.

With the amount of backlog you should be out in your shed completing work rather than on here dragging names into a he said she said anyway. as for the spec i wanted - I'll agree to disagree. it didn't meet expectations.

ignoring any preconceived idea's about my own personal experience, from what i've seen in a range of subaru applications the bang for $$ doesnt cut it for me.

good luck with your thread. i had no reason to post in it, so im signing off. enjoy.

[sultan]

i disagree with bang for buck. compared to the price of a brand new good quality turbo, his work ends up cheaper and does perform

[vorigan]

 funkytown said:

ive not mentioned anything in here, please read my post above more carefully. nor have i talked to you for ages. as if stands I have a stack of pm's and plots that say exactly what i did before you left so i'm comfortable with the conclusions ive reached.

With the amount of backlog you should be out in your shed completing work rather than on here dragging names into a he said she said anyway. as for the spec i wanted - I'll agree to disagree. it didn't meet expectations.

ignoring any preconceived idea's about my own personal experience, from what i've seen in a range of subaru applications the bang for $$ doesnt cut it for me.

good luck with your thread. i had no reason to post in it, so im signing off. enjoy.

well based on that you are a hypocrite and you would be the only one thats had an issue even speedtech have tuned afew and made the numbers on a stock car!!along with the many i supply to possums and aussie and they dont have any issues maybe you just dont know much about how to tune a setup thus you have to spend lots to gain another 30kw?

your right they dont work thus why many use them and many on trademe use the fact i did it to sell their cars,opps and a certain v8 using same spec as you did 10.9 can you top that?

Bang for money 1100 as a straight bolt in with the right tune and mods will get you 240kw wheel or another 10-15 with cams or spend 10k to gain another 30kw, you got a bargin there sweetheart.

And sorry i cant compete with 6400 posts guess one off us needs a life.

[Guest]

seems abit stupid you guys arguing over nothing?

steve knows his shit,everyone knows thats hes highly reconmendd by thousands of speed shops ect.this sort of reputation doesnt just occur.he's workd for it.

i dont know how many time iv looked on trade me and see a evo subaru nissan with a custom steve murch turbo.people wouldnt buy it if it was crap.

btw is your price 1100 just for the work?or doe that incluse the turbo?mayb you should show some evidence of your work and gain some respect on this site,cause it doesnt seem like youv got it.a hand full of people on here knw you and how your the turbo guru.

[vorigan]

 sultan said:

i disagree with bang for buck. compared to the price of a brand new good quality turbo, his work ends up cheaper and does perform

Cheers and what other alternative is there out there apart from chinese crap? Atleast i use oem parts and when a full exhaust will set you back over 1k these days to gain 5-8kw its not a bad deal.

Cost is all relative to your wallet and from most sub places i supply to the customers dont want a new hole ripped in them just a a little more kw without replacing an engine or the engine bay,putting 500hp turbo on a medium to high km engine isnt smart and doesnt do any good to the owner when it goes bang.

[Guest]

,so are you saying you build the turbo to suite the custmers engine setup.

for example.a guy comes to you with a vf22 off his sti.has a few mods exhuast ectect.he currently getting 210kw but wants more power,would you ovrhaul the turbo or opt for a newer upgrade unit?

cheers

[B4 2000]

 Stoffa said:

I LOVE STEVE MURCH'S TURBO'S!!!

ill be shouting,

I'M IN LOVE WiTH SM's TURBO

[ROYALS STI]

Steve I have heard great things about your work and when I get some coin togeather I would love you to upgrade my vf30 !!!

[vorigan]

btw is your price 1100 just for the work?or doe that incluse the turbo?mayb you should show some evidence of your work and gain some respect on this site,cause it doesnt seem like youv got it.a hand full of people on here knw you and how your the turbo guru.

Again thankyou for the kind words that 1100 is what most shops i deal with retail the upgrade for i cant say the trade or ill get shot for it, that is the cost with the unit supplied to me. our asking me for proof? Ah that could crash the server but i am after being bugged having a website done with who what and where plus lots of pics.

I can supply lots or dyno graphs but please remember that doesnt mean much its just a number but as yourve said the results come from the people using them in set applications with targa wins, world records ,track, drags have ive even had my units win the scottish hill climb champs!

I send to aussie, bruni,dubi, india,burmuda,fiji( they have some dam quick cars there ) england, blah blah blah, when im asked with respect i give info but being bagged tends to get a bad responce for some reason espeacially when its based on hear say.

[vorigan]

 ROYALS STI said:

Steve I have heard great things about your work and when I get some coin togeather I would love you to upgrade my vf30 !!!

Again many thanks and i tell you what guys if all the bullshit and back stabbing stops around hear ill post a step by step build of upgrading a vf unit in detail so everyone understands how its done and what you get.

[Guest]

there ya go.everyone be nice and we shall recieve.

[sultan]

 vorigan']

[quote name='sultan said:

i disagree with bang for buck. compared to the price of a brand new good quality turbo, his work ends up cheaper and does perform

/quote]

Cheers and what other alternative is there out there apart from chinese crap? Atleast i use oem parts and when a full exhaust will set you back over 1k these days to gain 5-8kw its not a bad deal.

Cost is all relative to your wallet and from most sub places i supply to the customers dont want a new hole ripped in them just a a little more kw without replacing an engine or the engine bay,putting 500hp turbo on a medium to high km engine isnt smart and doesnt do any good to the owner when it goes bang.

the closest i can find is a japanese brand called kinugawa which driven performance have started to do although haven't had any on cars in nz yet. they do subaru flanged td05 16-20g and td06 hybrids up to a td07-25g. prices aren't cheap though, starting at around 1400 with the bigger units encroaching on the cost of a ball bearing garrett. i've read overseas reports that the quality is pretty good with some turbos having garrett internals, but have struggled to find dyno plots of them. given the price is more than getting a hybrid from you, let alone the fact it's a gamble on real world performance it makes more sense to me to get your hybrid.

the garrett ta3410 is very cheap, but then you have to change flanges and buy/fit/run an external. same with masterpower turbos (although i imagine you probably don't like them because of your best mate baz manon being an agent for them)

[marc]

my answer for bolt on was:

But you can kiss goodbye to alot more then 1100 for a new one of these!!!!

[vorigan]

 marc said:

my answer for bolt on was:

But you can kiss goodbye to alot more then 1100 for a new one of these!!!!

RX6 mmmmmmm nice turbo shame they stopped making them

[vorigan]

the closest i can find is a japanese brand called kinugawa which driven performance have started to do although haven't had any on cars in nz yet. they do subaru flanged td05 16-20g and td06 hybrids up to a td07-25g. prices aren't cheap though, starting at around 1400 with the bigger units encroaching on the cost of a ball bearing garrett. i've read overseas reports that the quality is pretty good with some turbos having garrett internals, but have struggled to find dyno plots of them. given the price is more than getting a hybrid from you, let alone the fact it's a gamble on real world performance it makes more sense to me to get your hybrid.

the garrett ta3410 is very cheap, but then you have to change flanges and buy/fit/run an external. same with masterpower turbos (although i imagine you probably don't like them because of your best mate baz manon being an agent for them)

most cheap turbos ive sceen dont come with any comp map which is a gamble, the ta3410 is a great buy for its price as you say spend 6k fitting it.

baz sells them hes not a bad sort and his old man bruce is a legend for the way he runs his escort and many years of racing behind him.

masterpower is a garrett knockoff as with what most copies my bitch with all of them is if your going to copy something wouldnt you atleast make it better in some way?

the price of cheap knockoff's is going up to the point oem units are on a par price wise which should make it a easy choice.

[vorigan]

 sti8u said:

,so are you saying you build the turbo to suite the custmers engine setup.

for example.a guy comes to you with a vf22 off his sti.has a few mods exhuast ectect.he currently getting 210kw but wants more power,would you ovrhaul the turbo or opt for a newer upgrade unit?

cheers

every unit i do is built around whats needed or restrictions that arnt to be changed,there is many options and too many to list but i also go threw engine options to make sure the customer is up on whats needed to reach his goal on his budget or lack off.

Having a deep wallet is an easy way to build any car as the catalog does it for you, but doesnt mean youll have the result your after combos dont always work from car to car even if everything is identical but some basic things you cant go wrong with.

And for the record if any of these so called fantasy people that drop kick goes on about do actually exsist then im not that hard to get hold of and who ever i supplied to would have contacted me pretty quickly,many things come into making power the turbo is only a small part of that.

Dont expect to make 800hp by just bolting on a t51r you may have to change a few things for some reason.