Thinking about a BP5 legacy

[markw336]

well not entirely true the h6 has approx 250 hp where as the turbo has about 270hp but the delivery of power is different in the h6 you have instant torque where as in the turbo you have to wait a bit for the torque the h6 has constant power where as if your not on boost you have no power

[DacerX]

yeah well are we really going to argue over 20hp and its chain not belt, much more reliable, cheaper insurance. all the good things

[markw336]

lol yeah its chain driven and way more reliable so its much better for a wifes car if all she does is drive it from point to point if you want power you'd probally be better off going down the turbo lane as the parts/price/performance are better matched then with the 3l

[DacerX]

dont completely agree, but you do have good points

[markw336]

well another question i have whats the main difference between GT and GT Spec b other then the wheels?

also do they come with Hid's or normal halogen's

[DavidKemps]

The only problem with the H6 is it uses quite a bit more gas round town than the bp turbo.

off the line the H6 is a bit slower as well, the 6 cylinder is really smooth though, nice to drive.

Dave

[funkytown]

the 2.0t is faster and less gas than the H6. h6 as said is smoother and more of a cruiser.

I would have gone the 2.0t myself but i do a bit of towing so the 6 is better.

it was a horses for courses decision for me. both a very nice packages. the 3.0 with the 6spd is a nice package as a compromise

[markw336]

wow really the h6 uses more gas far out that surprises me only cause i have a bg5 legacy GT and because i have this i think al surbaru turbo motors are very hungry haha and im not one to complain about the price of petrol but must admit it came as a bit of a fright when premium petrol was 2.25 this morning (i live in thames)

[aim]

The GT BP will be WAY more fuel efficient than your GT BG.

[markw336]

yeah well i realised it would be better but not as much as you guys make it out to be ill always had fuel hungry cars haha

[DacerX]

if you were really worried about fuel pricing you wouldnt be getting subaru at all, in all honesty, thats not why we own them. My vote is still the 3.0R with a six speed, done.

[Drunkenmonkey]

My h6 gets better fuel than my mates bl gt and he's had a retune and drives like a 80 year old grandma in a Nissan march...

[markw336]

 dacerx said:

if you were really worried about fuel pricing you wouldnt be getting subaru at all, in all honesty, thats not why we own them.

YES this +10000000000000 have people complaining to me about there subaru's using too much gas. get a priius if your so concerned about gas lol

[DacerX]

why get a prius if u want a good fuel car, VW polo diesel, even id have one if all i was doing was town driving all day, but i dont

[mitSUBishi-guy]

Up to around late 2006, BP turbos were 5 speed manuals. Then there was a facelift and the 6 speed manual gearbox (from the 3.0L models) was introduced into turbo models. It's a sweet gearbox. Also if you're gonna go NZ new, there was about 12-18 months where the facelift GTs continued with the 2.0L turbo before supply switched to Aus spec GTs which came with the 2.5L turbo and less power (180kw vs around 205kw).

I did a car swap test drive with a friend who just bought a 3.0L manual BP - he drove my facelift GT. 3.0L is a sweet motor. But not as quick as the turbo. I nailed his 3.0L on a motorway onramp. In my car he clung to my tail all the way down, and afterwards said the GT had plenty of power in reserve. But both engines are great - I love the turbo but I'd be more than happy with a 3.0L.

Standard clutches are average though. Stall easy. Don't like fast changes. Might be that they're good when new, but don't wear well. I test drove a few and all the same.

[X]

my mates BP5 before mods cost about 3/4 tank from Auckland to Upper Hutt ( Wellington ) now it cost him just over a tank or so

[subieboy]

 X said:

my mates BP5 before mods cost about 3/4 tank from Auckland to Upper Hutt ( Wellington ) now it cost him just over a tank or so

My BH did roughly 2.5 tanks fully loaded from Whangerei via Rotorua to Wellington

Fully loaded was 2 kids, me, mrs luggage for international move - 3 suitcases, 1 pram, and all sorts of shit... (Just ask Pappu what the car looked like when he saw us in the detour dropping a poddie of)

[GorGasmSpecB]

Having owned both cars I can tell you this:

They both use around the same amount of gas in mixed usage. The turbo is better on the open road, the 3.0 better in town.

The 3.0 doesn't have as much torque as the turbo despite what the others say, it has much better response though. The turbo has a bit of lag to begin with but once its boosting at around 2.5k-3k it has a LOT more mid range push than the 3.0. The 3.0 has very linear power delivery and feels better up top than the turbo. Ringing the 3.0 out feels good while the turbo falls off at the upper RPM.

Speed wise I would rank them like this:

Turbo manual

Turbo Auto=Manual 3.0

Auto 3.0

[Swindog]

 markw336 said:

wow really the h6 uses more gas far out that surprises me only cause i have a bg5 legacy GT and because i have this i think al surbaru turbo motors are very hungry haha and im not one to complain about the price of petrol but must admit it came as a bit of a fright when premium petrol was 2.25 this morning (i live in thames)

I disagree. My V6 with v7 motor gets 550km to a tank of 98. My legacy gets 600 or slightly more.

[markw336]

details on your legacy? im guessing those figures are definitely open road figures

[mitSUBishi-guy]

BP wagon, manual. 8.6L/100km open road Auck - Wellys. Full carload 2 adults 2 kids, aircon running, sticking to 105-110kph. That's about 580km on 50L of petrol.

This xmas - Auck - Hastings, no passengers, small load in the boot, moving pretty quick: 9.2 - 9.6L/100.

Running 98RON.

[markw336]

thats pretty sweet id hate to wrok out my BG5 on the open road but id say it will be about 11-13 depends on how much secondary turbo over takes i do :)