Bung Starter Motor?

[Jammasta]

This morning i went to go into work, as i turned the car over once, it turned as normal, didn't fire, as normal. When cold first thing in the mornig, it normaly takes 1 to get it moveing, 2 to get it started. Allways been like this.

Tried a second time, and just got a "chuff" noise as i turned the key, no RAR-RAR-RAR, noise like you normally get when turning it over. Continues to make this noise as i turn the key.

I suspect a bung starter motor?

I can't roll the car back so that i can do a roll start or anything, as i live down a steep driveway, and can't roll it back enough to get a good roll on (lightweight car my ASS!!)

Cheers

G

[dubbedup]

i have a similar prob...every morning i have to jumpstart my car....it just goes rar rar rar then click click click, its not clickkingat all?

[Jammasta]

Nah its not clicking.

Just makes a "CHUFF" noise when i go to turn it over.

[Joker]

must be the season - whip it apart and check the brushes - $70 from sparky

[funkytown]

Want a hand to dismantle Jerrit?

[Jammasta]

Started sweet as about an hour ago, dunno WTF is up with it.

I assume its on its way out though, will take it apart before i go to CHCH next week and then i can get it sorted without the car off the road for too long.

[Guest keltik]

sounds like what mine was doing. Slame one out of an old non turbo in it - those starters RULE!!

If it just clicks its probably brushes. If it clicks lots after cranking for a couple seconds i'd guess crappy battery terminals or battery

[dubbedup]

 keltik said:

sounds like what mine was doing. Slame one out of an old non turbo in it - those starters RULE!!

If it just clicks its probably brushes. If it clicks lots after cranking for a couple seconds i'd guess crappy battery terminals or battery

thats my prob....finger tight terminals

[Old Skool Subbie]

 keltik said:

sounds like what mine was doing. Slame one out of an old non turbo in it - those starters RULE!!

If it just clicks its probably brushes. If it clicks lots after cranking for a couple seconds i'd guess crappy battery terminals or battery

Some times even thats not the problem.

It can be the wire that goes from the ignition switch to the starter can be degraded ( gone green etc). It just doesnt allow enought power to go the solenoid. Some times works sometimes it can play up, and you get those funny noises from the starter.

Had that prob on my Vortex 6. A new wire and relay was put in and it starts every time now. starter was never touched.

The relay was hooked up to the ignition wire and new wire run from the relay to the starter or something simmar.

[BC5RA]

Can you give it a whack with a hammer? sometimes they need a bit of a hit.

Only a temporary solution.

[Guest jedi warrior]

honestly.....

unbolt the starter... check for burring on the teeth, clean off excess grease. if the teeth are rounded find another starter.

check the earth wires on the starter, also check the earth from the battery to the front of the car.

CHARGE YOUR BATTERY..

also look at gettin brass terminals easy enough swap theyre about $13 from ripco or supersteap.

these will give you better connections and possibly solve your starter issue..

if this doesnt work then im sorry my friend but you have gremlins

[subieboy]

 keltik said:

sounds like what mine was doing. Slame one out of an old non turbo in it - those starters RULE!!

If it just clicks its probably brushes. If it clicks lots after cranking for a couple seconds i'd guess crappy battery terminals or battery

Sweet I have heard that, from which models would be best? Early 91 Legy on or earlier

[Guest keltik]

Mine came from a '91 VZ wagon.

[Guest]

Yeah like others are saying don't forget to make sure the battery's all charged up before you start dismantling the starter motor.

[Jammasta]

Happened again this morning, Battery showing 11v.

Tried Bashing it wiht a hammer as well and no luck.

Anyone know how much a new one would cost? Easy to change yourself?

[Koom]

Starter is simple to swap.

Disconnect battery.

Disconnect the power cable that goes onto the starter (10mm spanner) and unplug the small wire thats next to it.

Unbolt the two bolts that hold it onto the back of the bellhousing (14mm spanner)

Drop it on the floor narrowly missing you foot after its bounced off the gearbox.

Put the new starter in the hole thats left by the old one and do up all the stuff you've just undone.

Reconnect battery and then go do some heli's in the Supermarket carpark to celebrate....

[Jammasta]

Excellent, sounds fun, now to find a new starter motor. lol

It really sounds like its ceased, as its making the same noise as my fan that ceased when it got wet lol.

Sprayed it with CRC for shits'n'giggles just now, will let it soak then try again.

Really pissed off as i have NO food in the house as i've been away for a bit and its too cold to walk anywhere. Pizza Hutt FTW i think.

[Koom]

Shoulda just stayed down here for the weekend, I'm about to go find a nice warm pub....

[Jammasta]

Haha, yeh i should have, that would have been a much better way to spend the afternoon.

[Jammasta]

Would i be better off getting this one fixed or getting a brand spankers new one?

Will try taking it out tomorrow, if its warm enough out.

[Koom]

Depends how much a new one is going to cost???

I'd prob just go second hand cause its cheeeep.

[Guest keltik]

At $40 a pop you can go through a lot of second hand ones before you get to the price of a new one. Being pessimistic and ssuming a 1year lifespan for each 2nd hand unit, will they outlive the amount of time you plan on keeping the car?

[Jammasta]

Yeh thats right keltic. Just gotta find me decent second hand one. will try get a sound clip of the noise as well.

[Jammasta]

OK, so i got the Starter Motor off the car now, is there any way to test it to make sure it is poked, or am i now best to take it to the local mech to have a geeze at it.

[Swindog]

run a couple wires off the terminals of the battery..but ahh use some insulation cos youll get a boot when it fires.