Do I need a soopercooler?

[Stoffa]

Interesting read, just like a soopercooler, although this guy get temps lower than ambient

http://www.iwsti.com/forums/water-meth-injection-nitrous-intercooler-cooling/199117-t-gs-air-water-ic-build.html

[D-Style]

Thats a very nice install.

[Stoffa]

from reading that thread it sounds like the bigger exchange core you can fit in your bumper the better.

this requires more research...

[soopersubaru]

Have to say that this guy has done a great job!

Achieving lower than ambient utilising the latent heat of vapourization theory too!

Carrying around 5 gallons of water though.(22.72 litres !!)

Mine has around 5 litres, Incorperating a water only spray it only gets down to 8 deg above ambient.(22psi sudden demand over 10 seconds)

If i mix meth with it (The spray) ...despite the vapour fire risk it would also be lower...How much?...Not prepared to try that!

Cost? $1,200 US...Makes mine a lot cheaper and almost as effective.....That would be another way of saying

"The soopercooler is vaue for money at less than half the price!"....Would it not?

http://www.clubsub.org.nz/forum/index.php/topic,18866.msg263039.html#msg263039

[Stoffa]

I think even that guy says you wouldnt need that much water as long as the heat exchanger is big enough

[Guest]

Ive got a bit of info on pc pm me your email again Ill send it through.

[D-Style]

 Stoffa said:

I think even that guy says you wouldnt need that much water as long as the heat exchanger is big enough

Ive use a WTA heat exchanger and hooked the A/C up to it. So you using the A/C to cool your water down.

I did it on a REB30DET. The problem(more so in winter) we had is that It was cooling the air down too much and we started to get condensate in the Inlet Manifold.

[lachlan]

i call bs at original post . how can the temp be lower than ambient ? no matter how much 30 degree air you blow over something 50 degrees its temp cant go below 30 can it ?

[subout]

 lachlan said:

i call bs at original post . how can the temp be lower than ambient ? no matter how much 30 degree air you blow over something 50 degrees its temp cant go below 30 can it ?

"wind chill" factor could drop it lower than a stand still ambient possibly????

[Marky]

You can if you use the evaporation of water or meth in the mix

Best way to visualise it - hot day, get out of the (warm) pool, shiver for a minute / soon as you\'re dry you\'re warm again.

As it evaporates, it cools the surface it\'s on. That\'s why you sweat.

[lachlan]

yeah i know bout the evap but he isnt evaportaing anything .?

and hes not going to carry 5 gallons of water for the cooler and a another bucket load to spray on it . or did i not read it properly

even jetboats with unlimited river water cooled intercoolers struggle to get below ambient temp the falling efficiency of temp exchange

dunno . i am pretty tired from newyears mission . and i do think my HDI core was below ambient temp some days

fk me the thread is 35 pages long . anyone read it ?

[soopersubaru]

Its worth the read...You may actually learn something!...

Below ambient is very possible....Yes he uses spray too....Research "latent heat of vapourisation"

Marky is onto it.

[Stoffa]

to be clear he uses, water/methanol injection, inside the intercooler i.e a lot less volume

[CUDDAS]

 D-Style said:

Thats a very nice install.

Right on the money there

[rex-leggy]

without reading the thread my bet is he has the temp sensor just after were the meth sprays .....hence the below ambient reading.

methanol\'s not flammable at a 50/50 volume mix so no danger there , dont mix it at 50/50 weight mix tho as it is flammable we luckily tested that

it does look good thats for sure! just a shame the outlet for the exchanger isnt on the opposite side like a standard top mount, those 90 deg would restrict a little.

[soopersubaru]

The meth spray (aquamist) nozzle is in the intercooler outlet....Now having read it correctly...

Similar results are achieved when its raining according to one of his other posts.

A light fog also reduces his IAT temps.

I have noticed a huge difference in my own setup using a spray on the front radiator too...Only sprays when 10 psi boost is achieved.

WAIC.....Only way to cool !

[rex-leggy]

i get ambient or very close to temps with front mount and water meth inj . will have to do some logs on up comming dyno day and on the way to or from and post results .

a water meth kit is no doubt cheeper then a waic setup and cheep to run at 85c a litre.

[soopersubaru]

 rex-leggy said:

i get ambient or very close to temps with front mount and water meth inj . will have to do some logs on up comming dyno day and on the way to or from and post results .

a water meth kit is no doubt cheeper then a waic setup and cheep to run at 85c a litre.

Correct injection system cost?...$US400...Plus FMIC cost Plus consumable meth...Equals? WAIC cheaper!

Check this: link

http://www.aquamist.co.uk/cp/H3.html

[rex-leggy]

 soopersubaru']

[quote name='rex-leggy said:

i get ambient or very close to temps with front mount and water meth inj . will have to do some logs on up comming dyno day and on the way to or from and post results .

a water meth kit is no doubt cheeper then a waic setup and cheep to run at 85c a litre.

/quote]

Correct injection system cost?...$US400...Plus FMIC cost Plus consumable meth...Equals? WAIC cheaper!

Check this: link

http://www.aquamist.co.uk/cp/H3.html

i sure as hell didnt pay that much for the setup was around 300 nzd landed

[Guest]

 rex-leggy said:

it does look good thats for sure! just a shame the outlet for the exchanger isnt on the opposite side like a standard top mount, those 90 deg would restrict a little.

Got a few pics Ill upload when I get round to it. Ive got the specs on old rs waic too but will need to print then scan to get them up on photobucket.

[soopersubaru]

Here is another WAIC that Americans are getting into.

Its about time Kiwis did it too.....Coz it works best!

http://bigskysubaru.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=2005

[ODB]

I am waiting for funky towns response lol

[DRFVDR]

 ODB said:

I am waiting for funky towns response lol

Away getting married I believe ?