V7 Impreza stereo uprade options

[Dylan20N]

Hi I have recently bought a 2001 Impreza 20N and i would like to get the stereo upgraded a bit.

I was thinking something like my other car with 6" or 6.5" components in the front, the most decent speakers i can fit in the rear doors and a 50-70watt x 4 rms kinda level 4-channel amp along with a 10 inch sub.

On looking at the speaker spaces in the front and rear doors it all looks pretty tight space wise. anyone have any idea what will fit in the doors with and without spacers and what spacers to use etc.

I thought potentially some decent components in front could fit somehow and some ok 5" speakers in the back or something to fill the sound in the back might be sufficient.

Any advice is appreciated cheers

[mattapo]

I can sort you out a pair of Focal components if your after good stuff

[johnny5]

I think the backs are 4inch bro but don\'t quote me on that I went with Pioneer kevlar series for my rears it really does pay to put a square of Dynamat round where you mount the speakers really notice the difference and new bungs on the door cards so there are no annoying rattles

[johnny5]

 Trends Car Audio & Alarms - Mattapo said:

I can sort you out a pair of Focal components if your after good stuff

and these would sound the goods

[mattapo]

 johnny5']

[quote name='Trends Car Audio & Alarms - Mattapo said:

I can sort you out a pair of Focal components if your after good stuff

/quote]and these would sound the goods

And they are pretty cheap to

[boon]

165 KRX3?

[mattapo]

they are nice, I don\'t have prices on me, got a pair in store though, I have the slim versions on my land cruiser, they go seriously hard!!!!!!

[legacy666]

Front

rear

[Rosssub]

Looks like a 5inch would fit in there easy if you removed the OEM Spacers. As long as they\'re a shallow speaker?

[legacy666]

There\'s plenty of space depth wise in the rear, a good 4 inches before you need to worry about the window. The front however are abit tighter.

[tebbyj]

I think these pics are of the the older GC8 shape? the newer GG in the OPs case has a different set up with makes things a little harder from memory. The speakers are a single peace with the plastic spacer that mounts to the door in the front which requires some butchering (or buying new spacers) to fit anything worth while, I would recommend the later. However they do already have tweeter brackets that the OE tweeters are screwed and glued to, I just hot glued my new tweeters to this bracket for a stealth install.

I did manage to get 5.25"s in the back doors and if you can get your hands on some get Alpine SP-500s they were out performing my JBL 6" components in the front doors when running off a 60w amp. But they are out of production now so may be tricky to find.

[legacy666]

Pics are definitely a V7, though a sedan. I found that plastic spacers out of a bg legacies front door fit a 6 inch nice and easily and also lets you utilize the rain guard the spacers have.

[Dylan20N]

 Trends Car Audio & Alarms - Mattapo said:

I can sort you out a pair of Focal components if your after good stuff

Yeah that sounds good to me if they are good components and you know they will fit i\'m keen, do you have a link to check them out?

[Dylan20N]

 johnny5 said:

I think the backs are 4inch bro but don\'t quote me on that I went with Pioneer kevlar series for my rears it really does pay to put a square of Dynamat round where you mount the speakers really notice the difference and new bungs on the door cards so there are no annoying rattles

Never used this dynamat stuff. so saying you just get a bit and use it as a spacer to kill the rattles and such, or how do you use it?

really not sure what you mean when you say new bungs?

[Timmah]

 Dylan20N']

[quote name='johnny5 said:

I think the backs are 4inch bro but don\'t quote me on that I went with Pioneer kevlar series for my rears it really does pay to put a square of Dynamat round where you mount the speakers really notice the difference and new bungs on the door cards so there are no annoying rattles

/quote]

Never used this dynamat stuff. so saying you just get a bit and use it as a spacer to kill the rattles and such, or how do you use it?

really not sure what you mean when you say new bungs?

You put a big square patch of Dynamat behind where the speaker mounts.

I\'m also interested in these bung things. Do you mean those plastic clip things that secure the door card in place? If so, where do you get these?

[mattapo]

 Dylan20N']

[quote name='Trends Car Audio & Alarms - Mattapo said:

I can sort you out a pair of Focal components if your after good stuff

/quote]

Yeah that sounds good to me if they are good components and you know they will fit i\'m keen, do you have a link to check them out?

http://www.focal.com/en/43-car-audio-systems

[Dylan20N]

 Trends Car Audio & Alarms - Mattapo']

[quote name='Trends Car Audio & Alarms - Mattapo said:

I can sort you out a pair of Focal components if your after good stuff

/quote]

Yeah that sounds good to me if they are good components and you know they will fit i\'m keen, do you have a link to check them out?

http://www.focal.com/en/43-car-audio-systems

while i know it is better to have components in front im thinking seriously of getting something like alpine coaxials front and back roughly 50 watts rms each and a 4 channel amp. any real bass is going to come from the 10 inch sub the way i see it. Plus i already have the sub from my previous car in a small enough box to fit on the left of the boot out of the way of the removable floor panel.

In my experience with stereos im going to have to spend heaps more to have a noticeable improvement over 4 X 50watts nicely power matched to an amp not to mention the quicker and more stealthy install.

the only question is how big a speaker is possible in the back doors, seems like 5.25inches may be doable.

[boon]

Just a thought, and this is doctrine in car audio sound quality circles, do you go to a concert and face the back? No.... so why put speakers behind you?

A good set of speakers up front, running off an amp, with the rears just running off the headunit as "fill" for the benefit of back seat passengers, can sound bloody good. And it means you can spend twice as much on the front speakers.

Go for components up front. You won\'t regret it. Although Focal\'s coaxes are meant to be pretty good.

Worth remembering, generally speaking the more tweeters a coax speaker has, the crappier it is. A good coax will have 1 tweeter, mounted in the middle. Preferably silk dome.

[mattapo]

a set of focal axcess components start from round $300, and sound awesome just off the head unit, then go up from there

[newsuba]

 boon said:

Just a thought, and this is doctrine in car audio sound quality circles, do you go to a concert and face the back? No.... so why put speakers behind you?

A good set of speakers up front, running off an amp, with the rears just running off the headunit as "fill" for the benefit of back seat passengers, can sound bloody good. And it means you can spend twice as much on the front speakers.

Go for components up front. You won\'t regret it. Although Focal\'s coaxes are meant to be pretty good.

Worth remembering, generally speaking the more tweeters a coax speaker has, the crappier it is. A good coax will have 1 tweeter, mounted in the middle. Preferably silk dome.

^ amen.

I\'m always bugged by "live" recordings where the audience sound ends up behind the performers thanks to lazy recording engineers.

[Dylan20N]

 boon said:

Just a thought, and this is doctrine in car audio sound quality circles, do you go to a concert and face the back? No.... so why put speakers behind you?

A good set of speakers up front, running off an amp, with the rears just running off the headunit as "fill" for the benefit of back seat passengers, can sound bloody good. And it means you can spend twice as much on the front speakers.

Go for components up front. You won\'t regret it. Although Focal\'s coaxes are meant to be pretty good.

Worth remembering, generally speaking the more tweeters a coax speaker has, the crappier it is. A good coax will have 1 tweeter, mounted in the middle. Preferably silk dome.

Yeah thats fair enough and agreed but my thoughts were that given the speaker space available the fronts will end up with something a bit more powerful anyway and from previous installs ive found a huge improvement when matching amp power to speaker power and the 10-20 rms u might get out of the headunit is less than half of what a decent 5inch speaker can output.

that said i would think moderate extra cost for a basic 4 channel amp is worth it as i would then have 4 speakers with less distortion or clipping and with a bit of a bias in power to the front, staging should be ok. Was thinking of only using something like alpine speakers as i\'ve had decent sound out of them. The models i was looking at all had just the one tweeter as mentioned.

However if i do feel motivated and have more time for the instal ill probably go for some mid level components. Though correct me if im wrong but coaxials often seem to be a bit more shallow which may help. (prob just slightly smaller magnets etc because they are cheaper)