Welding centre diffs?

[Guest]

If you weld the centre diff does it split power 50/50 or does it make it RWD. Internet is split both ways on this.

[madmike]

Ahh... If you lock the centre diff it sends the same power to both front and back diffs

[Rosssub]

Weld centre diff - 50/50 locked. (would be interesting around town, tight turns etc)

Weld centre diff and remove front axles - RWD.

[loner]

locked center diff would be a nightmare... just try some low speed driving in a type r with the dccd locked.

[lachlan]

welding the centre diff is an important part of making it rwd . along with removing the front half shafts .

welded centre 4wd would be a dumb move for a street car and or track car . unless its on gravel or got a lot of power and/or you are going to drive it like a group b car .

[Guest]

Ok exactly what I thought then, couldnt figure out how the hell it would make it rwd.

Kind of get how it would be a prick to drive thinking about it. Before reading on it I didnt really get how it would effect it so much as front and rear sort the left/right difference. Thinking about it it would be a bit lurchy.

[Rosssub]

Definitely Lurchy, severe under and over steer at the same time.

I use Tarmac to test my Hilux 4WD (centre diff lock with F&R open), within 1m at full lock the front is bouncing and tires screeching.

[boon]

What centre diff on the Hilux Unless you\'ve swapped another driveline in....

[lachlan]

yeah no lux ever had a centre diff lol

it has a drive shaft to the rear . then it engages a gear to the front aswell

[Rosssub]

 Rosssub']

Definitely Lurchy, severe under and over steer at the same time.

I use Tarmac to test my Hilux 4WD (centre diff lock with F&R open), within 1m at full lock the front is bouncing and tires screeching.

What centre diff on the Hilux Unless you\'ve swapped another driveline in....

[quote name='lachlan said:

yeah no lux ever had a centre diff lol

it has a drive shaft to the rear . then it engages a gear to the front aswell

Locked centre diff/transfer case. Still has the same effect

[hijacka]

 lachlan said:

yeah no lux ever had a centre diff lol

it has a drive shaft to the rear . then it engages a gear to the front aswell

You can split the front casings and unbolt the crown wheel from the front diff after locking the centre. That way you can still run complete front half shafts.

Just make sure you have the splines lined up on the inside of the centre diff before welding it

No Rossub a transfer case is not the same as a centre diff but you know that now

[Rosssub]

 hijacka']

No Rossub a transfer case is not the same as a centre diff but you know that now

[quote name='Rosssub said:

Still has the same b]effect[/b]

I\'ve played with the internals of both. Was describing the effect, not the internal mechanical differences between vehicles. ;D

[hijacka]

 Rosssub']

No Rossub a transfer case is not the same as a centre diff but you know that now

[quote name='Rosssub said:

Still has the same b]effect[/b]

I\'ve played with the internals of both. Was describing the effect, not the internal mechanical differences between vehicles. ;D

Come on mate, No need to twist words..I\'ve play with myself and both hilux and subaru gearboxes too. I\'ve also been on the rebuild bench of a reputable 4x4 wrecker(All 4 wrecking) in melbourne over 14 years ago.. I got that good at it i could have every little part of the gearbox scattered on the bench and know exactly where every part goes.. same with lancruiser gearboxes.

The centre diff in our subarus split the torque where as a hilux transfer case transfers the output from rear output shaft of the gbox to both front and rear diffs. So when you talk about transfer cases and centre diffs they are apples and oranges.

FYI the 3 years i worked on the bench i would rebuild about 2-3 hilux gearboxes per week we used a company called cbc bearings to order the kits from. The hilux transfer cases are very strong. In the years i worked there we only ever sold 1 transfer case. We had big scrap metal cages full of them, all good working condition but only worth scrap price because no one needed any.

[Guest]

 hijacka']

No Rossub a transfer case is not the same as a centre diff but you know that now

[quote name='Rosssub said:

Still has the same b]effect[/b]

I\'ve played with the internals of both. Was describing the effect, not the internal mechanical differences between vehicles. ;D

Come on mate, No need to twist words..I\'ve play with myself and both hilux and subaru gearboxes too. I\'ve also been on the rebuild bench of a reputable 4x4 wrecker(All 4 wrecking) in melbourne over 14 years ago.. I got that good at it i could have every little part of the gearbox scattered on the bench and know exactly where every part goes.. same with lancruiser gearboxes.

The centre diff in our subarus split the torque where as a hilux transfer case transfers the output from rear output shaft of the gbox to both front and rear diffs. So when you talk about transfer cases and centre diffs they are apples and oranges.

FYI the 3 years i worked on the bench i would rebuild about 2-3 hilux gearboxes per week we used a company called cbc bearings to order the kits from. The hilux transfer cases are very strong. In the years i worked there we only ever sold 1 transfer case. We had big scrap metal cages full of them, all good working condition but only worth scrap price because no one needed any.

Saw that.

[hijacka]

 evowrx']

No Rossub a transfer case is not the same as a centre diff but you know that now

[quote name='Rosssub said:

Still has the same b]effect[/b]

I\'ve played with the internals of both. Was describing the effect, not the internal mechanical differences between vehicles. ;D

Come on mate, No need to twist words..I\'ve play with myself and both hilux and subaru gearboxes too. I\'ve also been on the rebuild bench of a reputable 4x4 wrecker(All 4 wrecking) in melbourne over 14 years ago.. I got that good at it i could have every little part of the gearbox scattered on the bench and know exactly where every part goes.. same with lancruiser gearboxes.

The centre diff in our subarus split the torque where as a hilux transfer case transfers the output from rear output shaft of the gbox to both front and rear diffs. So when you talk about transfer cases and centre diffs they are apples and oranges.

FYI the 3 years i worked on the bench i would rebuild about 2-3 hilux gearboxes per week we used a company called cbc bearings to order the kits from. The hilux transfer cases are very strong. In the years i worked there we only ever sold 1 transfer case. We had big scrap metal cages full of them, all good working condition but only worth scrap price because no one needed any.

Saw that.

Sad thing is i still do