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thoughts on GIZZMO IBC ELECTRONIC BOOST CONTROLLER!
« on: March 03, 2010, 10:30:02 pm »
ok well just getting your guys thoughts on the "GIZZMO IBC ELECTRONIC BOOST CONTROLLER"

as im picking 1 up off a mate for cheap
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Re: thoughts on GIZZMO IBC ELECTRONIC BOOST CONTROLLER!
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2010, 10:47:25 pm »
Instruction manual is pretty crap.  doesn't read vacuum,  & setting boost pressures, duty cycle % wtf?, But once you get your head around their terms & have it dialled in, it should do pretty good job :)

my e-boost was by far easier to understand from the get go, Alot more user friendly
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Re: thoughts on GIZZMO IBC ELECTRONIC BOOST CONTROLLER!
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2010, 10:59:19 pm »
yeah i can pick this 1 up for about 150 so meh.

well luckily im a quick learner and i dont mind the odd read
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Re: thoughts on GIZZMO IBC ELECTRONIC BOOST CONTROLLER!
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2010, 12:00:45 am »
Ben from auckland had experience with these.
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Re: thoughts on GIZZMO IBC ELECTRONIC BOOST CONTROLLER!
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2010, 08:10:44 am »
I use one, no spiking and it holds boost well..
A little fiddly to setup until you get to know it but a good unit.
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Re: thoughts on GIZZMO IBC ELECTRONIC BOOST CONTROLLER!
« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2010, 08:47:56 am »
I have the latest one of these and seems to be good, a little over the top for a road car imo but works well. But I had to get the turbo shop as setting the boost was pretty complicated. Keep that in mind lol
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Re: thoughts on GIZZMO IBC ELECTRONIC BOOST CONTROLLER!
« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2010, 11:44:44 am »
yeah looked at the manual and well doesnt seem to complicated its just getting the right setting lol
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Re: thoughts on GIZZMO IBC ELECTRONIC BOOST CONTROLLER!
« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2010, 03:50:49 pm »
I have the MSIBC and its mint. Took me about two seconds to understand the % rating instead of PSI but if you work on 45 being about 15 psi (depending on your setup) and 50 gain youll be ok. Just fine tune off that.

Their new 2.0 manual is out and way easier to understand.
One of the best and easiest to setup. Holds boost well and and can up maps on the fly.
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Re: thoughts on GIZZMO IBC ELECTRONIC BOOST CONTROLLER!
« Reply #8 on: April 02, 2010, 05:28:33 pm »
i love my gizzmo ibc - not that i fiddle with it that often...........
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Re: thoughts on GIZZMO IBC ELECTRONIC BOOST CONTROLLER!
« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2010, 06:44:34 pm »
works well, but %duty cycle is pretty lame, would prefer a closed loop controller,
but even my greddy profec b is open loop as it happens... lame as.
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Re: thoughts on GIZZMO IBC ELECTRONIC BOOST CONTROLLER!
« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2010, 10:48:54 am »
you can change the gizzmos from closed to open...at least mine you can.
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Re: thoughts on GIZZMO IBC ELECTRONIC BOOST CONTROLLER!
« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2010, 12:01:08 pm »
you can change the gizzmos from closed to open...at least mine you can.

you can't change them, the newer gizzmo controller is close loop (i think),
the older one open. actually you can probably change a closed loop one to
open, but not the other way around.  closed loop means there's a feedback
loop which the controller uses to make adjustments to the wastegate duty cycle...
in the case of the original gizzmo device and the greddy profec b, there is no
feedback loop. The person doing the tuning is the feedback loop in effect, and
once the parameters are set, there's no logic within the device to make further
adjustments.

A good controller IMO would be one where you just plug it in, and tell it how
much boost you want, and it just does it, and it maximizes boost throughout
the rev range and in every gear... no telling it how much to open the
wastegate, or any other crap, it just figures it out. At a guess this would make tuning
difficult, because the boost controller might be constantly adjusting things.


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Re: thoughts on GIZZMO IBC ELECTRONIC BOOST CONTROLLER!
« Reply #12 on: April 03, 2010, 12:31:54 pm »
I'm stoked i spent the money & got a turbosmart e-boost for all those functions & it's all in a gauge :).
the gizzmo ebc i put in a wrx a few weeks ago was kind of difficult to understand at first but with a bit of playing around i managed to get it run 12.5,  would be better if they spent a little more time on the instruction manual, as the turbosmart instructions are alot more indepth & so they should be for all the functions it has & it makes the set up easier to follow :)
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Re: thoughts on GIZZMO IBC ELECTRONIC BOOST CONTROLLER!
« Reply #13 on: April 03, 2010, 06:06:27 pm »
you can change the gizzmos from closed to open...at least mine you can.

you can't change them, the newer gizzmo controller is close loop (i think),
the older one open. actually you can probably change a closed loop one to
open, but not the other way around.  closed loop means there's a feedback
loop which the controller uses to make adjustments to the wastegate duty cycle...
in the case of the original gizzmo device and the greddy profec b, there is no
feedback loop. The person doing the tuning is the feedback loop in effect, and
once the parameters are set, there's no logic within the device to make further
adjustments.

A good controller IMO would be one where you just plug it in, and tell it how
much boost you want, and it just does it, and it maximizes boost throughout
the rev range and in every gear... no telling it how much to open the
wastegate, or any other crap, it just figures it out. At a guess this would make tuning
difficult, because the boost controller might be constantly adjusting things.

Why does mine have the option of open or closed then?
Gizzmo MS-IBC:  Multi-Scramble Intelligent Boost Controller p/n G0921
•Adjustable boost up to 50lb (3.5bar) 
•Multi Scramble Boost Control
•Remote Scramble/Boost Memory button facility
•Over-Boost warning
•Selectable open/closed loop boost control
•6 Boost Memories
•40mhz High Speed RISC Processor
•Black Extruded Aluminum case
•Blue 7 segment LED display 
•White backlit buttons
•Real Time digital boost gauge
•Simple 2-Wire Installation
•Suits Internal or External Wastegates
•Comes complete with all fittings
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Re: thoughts on GIZZMO IBC ELECTRONIC BOOST CONTROLLER!
« Reply #14 on: April 03, 2010, 07:17:56 pm »
lol yeah, read the second line of my post... no reason a boost controller with closed
loop couldn't also have open loop, as that's just turning the feedback loop off...
doesn't mean they all can operate in either way though.



you can change the gizzmos from closed to open...at least mine you can.

you can't change them, the newer gizzmo controller is close loop (i think),
the older one open. actually you can probably change a closed loop one to
open, but not the other way around.  closed loop means there's a feedback
loop which the controller uses to make adjustments to the wastegate duty cycle...
in the case of the original gizzmo device and the greddy profec b, there is no
feedback loop. The person doing the tuning is the feedback loop in effect, and
once the parameters are set, there's no logic within the device to make further
adjustments.

A good controller IMO would be one where you just plug it in, and tell it how
much boost you want, and it just does it, and it maximizes boost throughout
the rev range and in every gear... no telling it how much to open the
wastegate, or any other crap, it just figures it out. At a guess this would make tuning
difficult, because the boost controller might be constantly adjusting things.

Why does mine have the option of open or closed then?
Gizzmo MS-IBC:  Multi-Scramble Intelligent Boost Controller p/n G0921
•Adjustable boost up to 50lb (3.5bar) 
•Multi Scramble Boost Control
•Remote Scramble/Boost Memory button facility
•Over-Boost warning
•Selectable open/closed loop boost control
•6 Boost Memories
•40mhz High Speed RISC Processor
•Black Extruded Aluminum case
•Blue 7 segment LED display 
•White backlit buttons
•Real Time digital boost gauge
•Simple 2-Wire Installation
•Suits Internal or External Wastegates
•Comes complete with all fittings
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