Just a quick Q

[Koom]

3 of the 4 plugs physically plug in but then there's a huge headache awaiting with re-pinning the plugs to get the right wires to the right spot on the plug (plus sensors to suit).

[funkytown]

the ecu map is just set up for RS V1 and V2 on greys from factory. V3 onwards was yellows or bigger.

the v1/2 ecu is 4 plug and like koom said is a REAL pain in the arse to retro fit a v3/4 ecu into.

just stick with greys, and a td05, get the STI ecu and your away - simple.

[smokn4]

easier and cheaper for you to just chip the ECU to run the yellows....thats what ive done.

otherwise changing your loom to suit the 3 plug ECU's and get a 6S

[funkytown]

 smokn4 said:

easier and cheaper for you to just chip the ECU to run the yellows....thats what ive done.

otherwise changing your loom to suit the 3 plug ECU's and get a 6S

no dont run yellows.... there is no need.. its tuned for GREYS... even the v2 STI got GREYS.

[smokn4]

 funkytown']

[quote name='smokn4 said:

easier and cheaper for you to just chip the ECU to run the yellows....thats what ive done.

otherwise changing your loom to suit the 3 plug ECU's and get a 6S

/quote]

no dont run yellows.... there is no need.. its tuned for GREYS... even the v2 STI got GREYS.

yea well if he want to run yellows (like it sounds like in his post's) then there IS a need to do something dont ya rekn...and yea the V2 STi is tuned for grey's but thats not what he is asking

[funkytown]

 smokn4']

[quote name='smokn4 said:

easier and cheaper for you to just chip the ECU to run the yellows....thats what ive done.

otherwise changing your loom to suit the 3 plug ECU's and get a 6S

/quote]

no dont run yellows.... there is no need.. its tuned for GREYS... even the v2 STI got GREYS.

yea well if he want to run yellows (like it sounds like in his post's)

sorry then he should explain his "need".. if staying 4 plug and not a moving to a chipped ecu tuned for yellows (which there is no mention of).. there is no need.

its been stated greys are ok up to a reasonable kw and well capable of coping with a td05 and factory boost levels.

so no as it stands.. no need to run yellows IMO.

edit: checking what he asked "will moving to yellows still work as per normal" then on the information hes provided i'd say nah.

[smokn4]

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[subaru-mania]

What chip are you running smokn? and also what setup have yu got? Okey well just to clear things up.. This is how I see it.. I would like to run Tdo5, To save time Possibly chip my Current Ecu, Yellows, split fuel rails, How ever the yellows I more so want to run for a future thing If i decide to go for more Kw..

[funkytown]

 subaru-mania said:

What chip are you running smokn? and also what setup have yu got? Okey well just to clear things up.. This is how I see it.. I would like to run Tdo5, To save time Possibly chip my Current Ecu, Yellows, split fuel rails, How ever the yellows I more so want to run for a future thing If i decide to go for more Kw..

if you get a chipped ecu matched to yellows - then yes get the yellows, and wait to put them in when you change the ecu.

if you get anything tuned for greys.. use the greys..

fairly simple right? dont go putting in yellows on a grey tuned ecu "for the furture".. thats just not smart.

[smokn4]

running a chipped ecu,yellows,V2 STi AFM(apparently),td05,front mount,walbro,custom intake with custom dump pipe to a 2 an a half incm, cant remember if theres any more right now

all gonna change when i rip the manny off

[funkytown]

 smokn4 said:

running a chipped ecu, this be tuned for yellows right?yellows

V2 STi AFM(apparently)apparently has nothing to do with it, this is the same AFM for BOTH the WRX and early STI's, its green - what gets used for GREYS

td05,front mount,walbro,custom intake with custom dump pipe to a 2 an a half incm, cant remember if theres any more right now

[subaru-mania]

dont go putting in yellows on a grey tuned ecu "for the furture".. thats just not smart. Yes I agree. But looking on trademe http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Car-parts-accessories/Subaru/ECUs/auction-298130928.htm Is this a fair price? and If I decide i want to run yellows I could just get it chiped later on yeah?

[funkytown]

first answer - im not really up with the play on price of early ecu's sorry.. on the face of it and uneducated guess says that looks expensive.

that link you posted.. you realise its tuned for greys right? leading to second answer...

second answer - "If I decide i want to run yellows I could just get it chiped later on yeah?" this reads like you havent read anything i just wrote.. that being "dont go putting in yellows on a grey tuned ecu "for the furture"".

SAVE the injectors and put the ECU (tuned for yellows) and the YELLOWS in at the SAME TIME.. :o :o ??? ??? ??? ??? far out

[kingersman]

dude thats a bit pricey for just a sti ecu... i payed more for my 7k but more the fact that i wanted it straight away and was at a wreckers

[smokn4]

 funkytown']

[quote name='smokn4 said:

running a chipped ecu, b]this be tuned for yellows right?[/b]yellows

V2 STi AFM(apparently)apparently has nothing to do with it, this is the same AFM for BOTH the WRX and early STI's, its green - what gets used for GREYS

td05,front mount,walbro,custom intake with custom dump pipe to a 2 an a half incm, cant remember if theres any more right now

yea chipped for the yellows and a orange AFM,

i only chucked the V2 STi AFM in coz i thought it was better than running my original one...

(Didnt know they were the same even tho it has a green sticker coz its off a STi),

Will Have an Orange AFM on shortly...

[funkytown]

 smokn4 said:

yea chipped for the yellows and a orange AFM,

i only chucked the V2 STi AFM in coz i thought it was better than running my original one... no dude.. the green one in WRX is the same as the green STI one.. same same.

Will Have an Orange AFM on shortly... umm yer.. im suprised it goes at all on the green one. :

its simple stuff honestly.. match the turbo/injectors to the ECU and its tune for least issues and longevity of the motor... mix and match at your peril.

i dunno how many times you want me to say it. ???

[subaru-mania]

 funkytown said:

first answer - im not really up with the play on price of early ecu's sorry.. on the face of it and uneducated guess says that looks expensive.

that link you posted.. you realise its tuned for greys right? leading to second answer...

second answer - "If I decide i want to run yellows I could just get it chiped later on yeah?" this reads like you havent read anything i just wrote.. that being "dont go putting in yellows on a grey tuned ecu "for the furture"".

SAVE the injectors and put the ECU (tuned for yellows) and the YELLOWS in at the SAME TIME.. :o :o ??? ??? ??? ??? far out

I understand its tuned for grays, Hence me saying if I wish to run yellows In the future, could i get a chip to run yellows on this ecu... Until then yes stick with the grays..

[funkytown]

correct!! - ;D you got it now - your other post didn't read like that.

[smokn4]

 funkytown']

[quote name='smokn4 said:

yea chipped for the yellows and a orange AFM,

i only chucked the V2 STi AFM in coz i thought it was better than running my original one... b]no dude.. the green one in WRX is the same as the green STI one.. same same.[/b]

Will Have an Orange AFM on shortly... umm yer.. im suprised it goes at all on the green one. :

its simple stuff honestly.. match the turbo/injectors to the ECU and its tune for least issues and longevity of the motor... mix and match at your peril.

i dunno how many times you want me to say it. ???

yea go's swt as untill i hit round 14psi then it starts leaning out.

now i know them afm's are the same but im no too fussed as im DQ'd ,

and dont drive anyway....

but like i said its gonna change soon.....might aswell do it now while i cant drive

[wildturkey]

plenty of options out there 4 ya bro..........depends how much moolah u wana throw at it.

Just do the research first and have a clear picture of what you want

there's plenty of people on here running the same sort of setup you're looking at............so there won't be any shortage of advice

[subaru-mania]

 wildturkey said:

plenty of options out there 4 ya bro..........depends how much moolah u wana throw at it.

Just do the research first and have a clear picture of what you want

there's plenty of people on here running the same sort of setup you're looking at............so there won't be any shortage of advice

yep Your spot on There Thats pretty much comes down to Man, However I Have made a start, Brought a Td05 with the 90 bend, Next is Ecu, But in no Hurry as like Kingersman Said 250 Is Quite pricey And I think I can find a better price if I Keep looking. And don't rush , Will keep Yu all posted on how things go and as tdo5 install comes together Will also add some pics 2 .. appreciate all the input/ideas Chur

[kamineko]

just a few notes

td05 + sti ra ecu + free flowing exhaust can lead to boost spike/creep past ~16psi which results in nasty fuelcut

remedy = either leave in the factory catted downpipe or install boostcontrol device

if your still running your water/air intercooler, a wrx ecu will not send the signal to run the intercooler pump. you may need to hard wire it on or some other method.

'chipped' ecu is fine but i think most are done by guesswork or just copied tunes from elsewhere. ideally you need a dyno tune if you want to put any faith in it. (and i'm not sure anyone writes a v1/2 'chip' tune from scratch locally)

i sold my 7K for $200~250 and i think thats a fair value. i can't speak for a 6K but the rev limit will be slightly lower.

[subaru-mania]

Hmm interesting Yeah cos I have a full 3inch exhaust And is all de-catted.. So that could cause possible problem huh..

[kamineko]

see how you get on, you might be ok, every setup is different. your 20G engine is similar but not the same as the v2 sti ra 20G.

[driftrex]

 kamineko said:

just a few notes

td05 + sti ra ecu + free flowing exhaust can lead to boost spike/creep past ~16psi which results in nasty fuelcut

remedy = either leave in the factory catted downpipe or install boostcontrol device

if your still running your water/air intercooler, a wrx ecu will not send the signal to run the intercooler pump. you may need to hard wire it on or some other method.

'chipped' ecu is fine but i think most are done by guesswork or just copied tunes from elsewhere. ideally you need a dyno tune if you want to put any faith in it. (and i'm not sure anyone writes a v1/2 'chip' tune from scratch locally)

i sold my 7K for $200~250 and i think thats a fair value. i can't speak for a 6K but the rev limit will be slightly lower.

yea i bought kami's 7k, cant remember exactly what i paid but yea was around that price bracket, it was worth every dollar anyway, had a very noticeable effect running with the TD05, held boost higher in the rev range and a much more aggressive tune. i ran 15psi every day with it, and for a short period even ran 17psi, though i wouldnt recommend that haha, was pretty quick though.

to give you an idea, on basically a standard v2 wrx 20g setup, with TD05 and the 7k ecu my car dynoed 167kw at rear wheels. i had the factory downpipe in so didnt have trouble with boost spike.

definately find yourself a 7k over a 6k, may just take a little while to find one, i on-sold mine for $200, now im running a posssum link.