Front mount better than top mount?

[Munkvy]

 keltik said:

lol yay wont be the only legacy

I will be there in one of the Legacys - white or yellow is not so certain. Depends on if I can fix the white one up tomorrow or not.

[Guest loren]

 Munkvy']

[quote name='keltik said:

lol yay wont be the only legacy

/quote]

I will be there in one of the Legacys - white or yellow is not so certain. Depends on if I can fix the white one up tomorrow or not.

so you have a motor to drop in I assume?

[Guest loren]

 Munkvy']

[quote name='Munkvy said:

PS Loren, I look forward to kicking your arse on Sunday in the custard square....

/quote]

I'm not going to be on foot viv

Just as well - cos if you were on foot then you would get beaten by my mum

I'd beat her on the first lap I bet.

[Munkvy]

 loren']

[quote name='keltik said:

lol yay wont be the only legacy

/quote]

I will be there in one of the Legacys - white or yellow is not so certain. Depends on if I can fix the white one up tomorrow or not.

so you have a motor to drop in I assume?

Put new seals in it today and just finished sitting it in the engine bay. However still need to reconnect everything, install inlet manifold and injectors. Then get the Link retuned for the new injectors. Then it will be ready.

So may well not be ready until next week

[Guest loren]

 Munkvy']

[quote name='keltik said:

lol yay wont be the only legacy

/quote]

I will be there in one of the Legacys - white or yellow is not so certain. Depends on if I can fix the white one up tomorrow or not.

so you have a motor to drop in I assume?

Put new seals in it today and just finished sitting it in the engine bay. However still need to reconnect everything, install inlet manifold and injectors. Then get the Link retuned for the new injectors. Then it will be ready.

So may well not be ready until next week

but it's your 3rd motor?

or have you fixed one of the others?

this is a bit off topic I guess.

FMICs are gay unless done full WRC styles.

[Koom]

 loren said:

FMICs are gay unless done full WRC styles.

Based on which model year for WRC? i.e. the sloping one or the horizontal v-mount??

[BC5RA]

V mount best for shortest plumbing.

Koom, are you familiar with Swee's RS?

[Koom]

I would have guessed that the horizontally mounted WRC intercooler (think its the 03 or 04 model??) would have the shortest piping. But you could almost call it a topmount anyway. I'll find a pic.

Not familiar with Swee's car but I was mostly taking the piss with the above post anyway.

[Koom]

I was thinking of these two WRC setups. Either would be pretty cool I guess.

[BC5RA]

The 1st pic; Whats your take on the expansion chamber post cooler?

And the 1 1/4 or so piping; post turbo/pre inter cooler?

[BC5RA]

V mount is as the Two above picture's.

[Koom]

I think the small piping post turbo is part of the exhaust gas recirculation system which they use instead of BOV's.

We've discussed the chamber and think that it is possibly a pressure chamber that is used so that it has instant boost. The tuning and setup on them is completely different to anything else I've ever seen. They can make ~20psi at a 2k rpm idle and are freeboosted midrange with the restrictor choking boost levels up higher in the revs.

None of the ex-Prodrive Mechanics that I've met know what the chamber is for (most of them worked there during the McRae/Burns era) but after talking to a few guys we've hypothesised that it holds pressure as they release a large amount of high pressure air after they cross the finish line. This only happens once they switch off the anti-lag etc and the car settles back to a normal idle level.

[BC5RA]

Could be to retain a positive charge, maybe a requirement of the OE style intake TB arrangement.

[DRFVDR]

did u notice the turbo is on its side ??

[Guest loren]

 Koom']

[quote name='loren said:

FMICs are gay unless done full WRC styles.

/quote]

Based on which model year for WRC? i.e. the sloping one or the horizontal v-mount??

I was actually thinking of some GC8 WRC cars that someone posted pics of and were for sale in the UK.

I think they had the turbo outlet pointing directly forward going under the intake manifold, straight out to a vertically mounted IC which was top fed. There was no

power steering. The intake manifold was reversed and fed from the top of the IC,

a bit like the horizontal one in the second pic.

[Koom]

 loren']

FMICs are gay unless done full WRC styles.

Based on which model year for WRC? i.e. the sloping one or the horizontal v-mount??

I was actually thinking of some GC8 WRC cars that someone posted pics of and were for sale in the UK.

I think they had the turbo outlet pointing directly forward going under the intake manifold, straight out to a vertically mounted IC which was top fed. There was no

power steering. The intake manifold was reversed and fed from the top of the IC,

a bit like the horizontal one in the second pic.

Similar to this type of setup??

But done with Prodrive budget so it would look a bit flashier.

[quote name='DRFVDR said:

did u notice the turbo is on its side ??

Its a rather expensive turbo and they've run them vertically for years. They could also afford to replace the turbo nearly every day of competition.

[DRFVDR]

 Koom']

FMICs are gay unless done full WRC styles.

Based on which model year for WRC? i.e. the sloping one or the horizontal v-mount??

I was actually thinking of some GC8 WRC cars that someone posted pics of and were for sale in the UK.

I think they had the turbo outlet pointing directly forward going under the intake manifold, straight out to a vertically mounted IC which was top fed. There was no

power steering. The intake manifold was reversed and fed from the top of the IC,

a bit like the horizontal one in the second pic.

Similar to this type of setup??

But done with Prodrive budget so it would look a bit flashier.

[quote name='DRFVDR said:

did u notice the turbo is on its side ??

/quote]

Its a rather expensive turbo and they've run them vertically for years. They could also afford to replace the turbo nearly every day of competition.

And hence they no longer can afford to race WRC (subaru anyways prodrive still doing there thing)

[Guest loren]

 Koom']

[quote name='loren said:

FMICs are gay unless done full WRC styles.

/quote]

Based on which model year for WRC? i.e. the sloping one or the horizontal v-mount??

I was actually thinking of some GC8 WRC cars that someone posted pics of and were for sale in the UK.

I think they had the turbo outlet pointing directly forward going under the intake manifold, straight out to a vertically mounted IC which was top fed. There was no

power steering. The intake manifold was reversed and fed from the top of the IC,

a bit like the horizontal one in the second pic.

Similar to this type of setup??

yep, pretty much just like that actually... big carbon intake pipe etc.

[Swindog]

Thats an awesome setup!

[driftrex]

my piping will be no longer than that last pic, altho my pipes dont come from the top of intercooler but instead out the back of the end tanks (flipped cooler) and straight through the radiator gap in the bulkhead, requires custom radiator of course.

i wouldnt do front mount without doin it right.

[pl0x]

 driftrex said:

my piping will be no longer than that last pic, altho my pipes dont come from the top of intercooler but instead out the back of the end tanks (flipped cooler) and straight through the radiator gap in the bulkhead, requires custom radiator of course.

i wouldnt do front mount without doin it right.

is yours done now? i wanna see it haha

[driftrex]

 pl0x']

[quote name='driftrex said:

my piping will be no longer than that last pic, altho my pipes dont come from the top of intercooler but instead out the back of the end tanks (flipped cooler) and straight through the radiator gap in the bulkhead, requires custom radiator of course.

i wouldnt do front mount without doin it right.

/quote]

is yours done now? i wanna see it haha

nope not finished yet you have to wait haha, now that ive just bought a daily driver the car will come off the road to fit flipped manifold/extractors/twisted turbo that i have sitting waiting.

also just bought a walbro pump today from redline

good things take time.

[Swindog]

Madness. You ll be able to keep up with me:) i have a work car now so mine sits in the garage too. So much better when you dont have to stress that it has to be back together by monday morning to get to work!

[driftrex]

 Swindog said:

Madness. You ll be able to keep up with me:) i have a work car now so mine sits in the garage too. So much better when you dont have to stress that it has to be back together by monday morning to get to work!

yea limits how far you can go, been driving me nuts not been able to get stuck into it.

[Swindog]

Another month and i should have my parallel setup done. Then attack the power steer lines.

I just need a bigger garage.