terrible understeer in the wet

[Kiwi_Fozze]

hey guys, i've noticed some shocking understeer in the wet. i'm running v7 sti struts with v3 sti wagon springs, 20mm rsb and standard fsb.

would i be looking at a bigger fsb and better tyres? would a bigger fsb help? opinions please people!!

[xsvpwr]

what are your current tyres?

[Kiwi_Fozze]

triangle talon on the front, bridgestone my01's on the back. shhh... i know they are average, but they were on the rims when i got them and there is heeeeeeps of tread left

[xsvpwr]

I would say the triangles aren't helping on the front, could you put the MY01's on the front and see if there is an improvement?

I like to try zero cost remedies before spending cash...

I have Bridgestone MY01's on all four corners and find them excellent

[Kiwi_Fozze]

mmm i've been meaning to do it since i first put the rims on hehehehehe

[xsvpwr]

may as well try it hey, for 30 mins of labour it could dramatically improve the response of the car...

[Divine]

I have triangles on all 4's. I often get mocked because of them, came with the car with tread on them, but handeling wise they aren't the greatest.

[Kiwi_Fozze]

they arnt actually toooo bad in the dry...

[GC8E2DD]

 Divine said:

I have triangles on all 4's. I often get mocked because of them, came with the car with tread on them, but handeling wise they aren't the greatest.

Having the same tyres all around should be better overall for balance whether they are good or bad. Having poor tyres on the front and good ones on the back is a recipe for understeer. Various driving styles can also exacerbate or moderate things like understeer, so you could try driving around it.

[boon]

To be honest, it's going to be the triangles on the front. A bigger sway bar up front will result in MORE tendency to understeer.

Tyres make a crazy difference in this regard.

[maserati mick]

Mate try driving on 225 30 20z mean understeer lol factory fsb rsb and struts

[nztintin]

Tyres and wheel alignment. Tbh my forester still has pretty bad understerr on the track on acceleration, even with 24mm swaybars and the rear dialed up hard and back suspension dampers up full hard. I just have too much rear grip for the front.

And after having my track car set to oversteer and then set back to umdersteer i prefer understeer/neutral handling, way more predictable and easier to keep on the road ifyour not 100% on to it ie racing with a hangover lol

[Kiwi_Fozze]

will try swapping tyres around. it was starting to drive like my 86 honda... hahahaha

[newsuba]

It's a warning to back off...

As Sam sez, driving style plays a big part.

If you're a typical Subaru driver who goes in full bore, try the slow-in/fast out approach.

[Kiwi_Fozze]

nah, was taking it quite slowly tbh, will try same corners again with tyres swapped and report

[GC8E2DD]

Sounds like it might just be a tyre mismatch. You could give trail braking a go and achieve all the oversteer you could ever want, and then some (will require wet and/ or some speed). Understeer and oversteer are both pretty dangerous.

[Dv8er - FSTWRX]

Talon Triangle tyres are absolute crap. Had them on my ute and it just wanted to skid off the road all the time. Upgraded to Neuton NT5000 which aren't super flash tyres either, but absolute miles better then the Triangles. So chances are having crap tyres on front + alright ones on the back = understeer.

[sultan]

your problem is absolutely your tyres. triangles in the wet need to be driven with caution. they handle like they're on very loose gravel. i have them on my commodore. GREAT for doing skids and/or extremely slow drifts. i need to absolutely nana it around rounabouts otherwise it's all over the show. dangerous really for inexperianced drivers. i'd hate to think what would happen if needed to stop in hurry.

[Kiwi_Fozze]

yeah im going to put them on the back, its a lot easier to catch (in my opinion) than understeer

[petrolheadjman]

triangles will be it haha, such bad tyres

[nztintin]

 kwi_fozze said:

yeah im going to put them on the back, its a lot easier to catch (in my opinion) than understeer

good luck. I'll wait for the "wtd: rear 1\4 of a forester" thread. lol

[subieboy]

 nztintin']

[quote name='kwi_fozze said:

yeah im going to put them on the back, its a lot easier to catch (in my opinion) than understeer

/quote]

good luck. I'll wait for the "wtd: rear 1\4 of a forester" thread. lol

I has popcorn ready...

Replace the bloody garbage tyres and get something better (Jesus even budget Firestone's will give a measurable improvement)

[EJ20T]

Yes the tyres will be the problem, my bros car currently has linglongs on the front, horrible

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[boon]

Even halfway decent tyres don't cost that much (maybe a big tank of petrol each) and keep you on the road a helluva lot better than those ching-a-ling wing-de-wong-number tyres.

[newsuba]

 boon said:

Even halfway decent tyres don't cost that much (maybe a big tank of petrol each) and keep you on the road a helluva lot better than those ching-a-ling wing-de-wong-number tyres.

AKA Chinese takeaway tyres.

Can't remember who first came up with that term.. Turtle ? One of the early Daves ?