Which BP5?

[ndb21]

Ok so I\'m thinking about moving on from the mighty BH5 to a BP5 and was wondering about which model to get. My BH5 is a rev D and I was wondering if there\'s a similar model to look for in the BP\'s. Or are they all created relatively equal?

Thanks

[DacerX]

Go for the BPE, Manual 6 speed, 6 cyclinder goodness

[funkytown]

as above there are serveral base options, not withstanding the gearbox choices:

* 2.0l non turbo 4 banger - 3.5 donkey power

* 2.0l twin scroll turbo 4 banger - 190 odd kw

* 3.0l non turbo 6 banger - 180kw.

there is 5 speed autos, 5 speed auto with tiptronic, 5 speed manual and a few rare 6 speed manuals..

just realised... you asked which \'bp5\'... if you knew that was the turbo version they are mostly the same, there is a bilstein spec one, and a non. power wise and drivetrain they are identical.

[Heylin]

Go for the Spec-B sedan (2.0L Turbo) **pretty sure they are single scroll**

Manuals are pretty hard to find, but the 5 speed tiptronic is vastly better than older models with some pretty cool features like g sensor to prevent mid corner up\downshifts.

If $$$ allow get a Subtech Frontpipe, remove the middle cat\resonator and get an ECU tune from PBMS in Pukekohe. Nets you better economy and 225kw at engine (180kw at wheels). Total cost about $1500.

[GC8E2DD]

All BP5 turbos are twin scroll.

[DacerX]

still rather the 3.0r, there is one on TM going cheap as,

[ADIKT]

 GC8E2DD said:

All BP5 turbos are twin scroll.

thought manual was twin scroll and the autos had single scroll turbos?

[syphe]

nah, both twin scroll.

Manuals get the TD04 which is a slightly \'better\' turbo than the VF38 that the Auto\'s get, supposedly 260 japanese horsepowers for the auto and 280 for the manual.

[gazzy2000]

we are selling our BP5 rev A http://www.clubsub.org.nz/forum/index.php/topic,34382.msg519716.html#msg519716

GT B spec with the nice OEM 18" spoked wheels, its a tip tron

we would take 9k for it

[KiwiJoe]

 syphe said:

nah, both twin scroll.

Manuals get the TD04 which is a slightly \'better\' turbo than the VF38 that the Auto\'s get, supposedly 260 japanese horsepowers for the auto and 280 for the manual.

Facelift (RevD 07-08, 2.0) JDM autos and manuals both switched to VF45s.

[GorGasmSpecB]

No revisions that mean much in the BP5 really.

Facelift is 2006+ which include SI Drive and 6 Speed plus cosmetic changes. These cost a lot more than the older ones.

The only other thing to watch for is bilstein suspension or Spec B.

Go for the 2.0 turbo manual.

The 3.0R is good if you are not that interested in performance and prefer a smoother car.

My pick would be a facelift 2.0 turbo manual, or 03-05 turbo manual if on a budget.

[DacerX]

 GorGasmSpecB said:

The 3.0R is good if you are not that interested in performance and prefer a smoother car.

You have insulted my honor sir! I challenge you to pistons at dawn!

But they arent slow at all and they are a performance car in there own right

[GorGasmSpecB]

Haha

I\'ll say performance is brisk, and good for it\'s class. The 3.0R motor is actually a great piece of work and makes for a good package in the leggy.

But, the turbo is faster and has more potential. If you are keen to do bolt on mods like downpipe, intercooler and tune then the turbo will destroy the 3.0.

[clintondane]

The 2006 models are coming sown in price all the time. I drove one in CHCH a few weeks ago that had done about 100ks and was selling for $13999. Saw another one on TM in Wellington that had done very similar k\'s for $12999. Both were auto/tiptronic versions. The one I drove was awesome, love the SI Drive. Some people say they can\'t feel a difference, they must be paralyzed from the ears down?

[ADIKT]

 clintondane said:

The 2006 models are coming sown in price all the time. I drove one in CHCH a few weeks ago that had done about 100ks and was selling for $13999. Saw another one on TM in Wellington that had done very similar k\'s for $12999. Both were auto/tiptronic versions. The one I drove was awesome, love the SI Drive. Some people say they can\'t feel a difference, they must be paralyzed from the ears down?

The only thing si drive changes is the throttle response.

Power wise - its the same between I, S and S#

[clintondane]

I know what it does and all I\'m saying is you can feel the difference.

[ADIKT]

 clintondane said:

I know what it does and all I\'m saying is you can feel the difference.

Indeed you can

[paulngui]

 KiwiJoe']

[quote name='syphe said:

nah, both twin scroll.

Manuals get the TD04 which is a slightly \'better\' turbo than the VF38 that the Auto\'s get, supposedly 260 japanese horsepowers for the auto and 280 for the manual.

/quote]

Facelift (RevD 07-08, 2.0) JDM autos and manuals both switched to VF45s.

Which is single scroll if I\'m not mistaken.

[GC8E2DD]

That seems Extremely Unlikely.

[KiwiJoe]

 paulngui']

[quote name='syphe said:

nah, both twin scroll.

Manuals get the TD04 which is a slightly \'better\' turbo than the VF38 that the Auto\'s get, supposedly 260 japanese horsepowers for the auto and 280 for the manual.

/quote]

Facelift (RevD 07-08, 2.0) JDM autos and manuals both switched to VF45s.

Which is single scroll if I\'m not mistaken.

No, it\'s twin-scroll.

[dimin]

The 2.5L turbos are the ones with single scroll if I remember right ?

[paulngui]

Yeah maybe, I just remember reading that facelift ones went to single scroll. So maybe it was just for the 2.5L ones.

[clintondane]

Did NZ get any of the 2.5litre turbo Legacy\'s? I\'m sure the newer models, 2009 and on were 2.5lt turbo? Anything earlier I thought was destined for the US market? Although, I\'m sure there\'s a few jap imported Legacy XT\'s. Confused!

[paulngui]

Yep some nz new ones are 2.5L

[ndb21]

Thanks fellas.

So if I look at post 2006, can I get a 6 speed manual or 6 speed tiptronic?